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know, you will use 90%

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of unconscious during the day and only 10%.

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It's

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when you sit in a room with a person in a white coat and,

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glasses on and, and certificates on the wall, and you put them up on that pedestal and I turn to you and say, hey, you have this disorder, you have unfortunately, you have depression disorder.

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It's not they don't hate you and go, hey, at the moment you have these symptoms of depression, but we can move through them. They don't give you that hope. Enjoy this. What's going on in the exactly

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what exercise are you doing?

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I literally came out of that session and was like, Holy fuck, you're not gone back to the minds. The world needs to know this.

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I had never experienced anything in my life that gave me

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an instant release. Like, I truly felt like with that emotional, sick, heavy pain that was in my body flow out through my fingertips. And

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It was the moment my life truly changed and my life has never been the same since because of breathwork. And so now I had the holy fuck, the world needs to know this because I've been in pain majority my my whole life. and I have done everything going to every psychotherapy, I've done every self-development, course that ever came out.

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I've done Landmark Forum, I've done Reiki, I've done kinesiology, I've done rites of passage, I've done it all. And so when I finally had this is like, okay, fuck it. Like, I don't know how we're making this work, but it is our job now to help as many people as possible, because I my motto in life is to see the world emotionally

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right?

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That's right.

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traumas, think too much, too fast. Success, which happened to me too much, too fast was traumatic, overwhelming.

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I learned anxiety, imposter syndrome,

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What is up crew? And welcome to another episode of Spill the Tea with Bo and Kirstie. That's Kirstie, not Kirstie and Beau. This is epic.

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It's Bow and Kirstie. Let us know what you guys think. But, this is episode four, I believe, and this is called Believe in Your Breath. Let's go. Kirstie. All right. Bowser, have the. How did the live in your breath even come about? Once. Let's start from the beginning. Well, this is a story, guys. So buckle up. Put your headphones in it.

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Get ready. So believe in your breath. It's a question I get a lot. How do I get in a breath work? Had I start this business? How did we end up where we are today? Living in Bali, traveling the world with our work? We got to run an online program. Well, obviously we were together and I was having issues with my mental health and with my triggers and with my past and I was like, alright, I'll just go to a psychologist, right?

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Because they fix you and that'll deal with all my issues. And, you know, it's taking accountability that I need some help, which is the first step. We all know that. And, I went there and I basically over shared in trauma. Dom dumped for about an hour, and then I left and I was like, okay, cool. And she didn't say anything back.

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And I was like, yeah, I was feeling like accomplished that. I'd done like therapy. I mean, going out with ADHD diagnosed at two, I was always in psychs offices and stuff, but that was different. I was there with my mom, and it wasn't like it was about me or my personal life was just about my behavior. So that was different.

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But to sit down in front of like a psych psychologist and explain, like, what's going on with me and my, you know, my ex and my anger and my mental health, like, personally and all the stuff that I've been going through. Yeah, it felt different. And, they sent me an email the next day saying, hey, you're not the right fit, you'll have to find someone else.

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And I laughed that off because that was my coping mechanism. How's too much for the, too much for the psychologist? She couldn't handle me. And, you know, it took a few years and a lot of work on myself to realize that that actually fucking hurt. Well, I actually to. And we were we were somewhere we were away on holiday somewhere.

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So I mean, we got the email, Oh, yeah. We were like in Margaret River or something. And I was like, yeah, that's right. Hillary is like, I just got dumped. Yeah, got dumped by my I'm not okay. Because I'm like, if I wasn't here right now, I'm not sure if you were actually there was like, your suicide.

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Yeah, exactly. And and you try and you write it down, and then you got dumped, like, so you left as your normal coping mechanism, and everyone does. Everyone laughs when it's awkward or when it's weird or at high. And that is your partner. Yeah, I like the classic class clown. Yeah. So I always try to turn something into funny, right?

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Like when we're having a serious conversation, I'm like, oh, and this. And then that's like my diversion to try and get out of this, like, okay, I don't want to talk about this serious shit. Yeah, I want a let's laugh it off and go into something else. So yeah. you know, and you're right, like, you know, thinking about that later on, I was like, well, what if someone was suicidal and that was that like, I'm going to finally reach out and get some help.

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And then they got dumped. And that's where we are. We are born and programed to believe that as a doctor. You know, that is going to help us and then it's going to get dumped and thrown off by the. They will then possibly help us. And this is exactly why I and I get a little bit emotional talking about this and goose bumps as well.

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But this is why it's so important to raise your kids with self-esteem, right? Because you, you know, as parents like you going to send your kids out into this bad world and we bubble up our kids and we can't always protect them. And in situations like that, when they turn to drugs and alcohol or, you know, there's bullying at school and this shit on social media, and they could be led in all these different ways.

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I think it's a really important, important, it's it's important to know how to boost a child's confidence and give them those so key tools of like, you know, taking a breath and walking away or knowing their worth or not letting the external, you know, bait get bait them down. So exactly navigate and regulate their emotions and nervous system because when, when you, you know, it doesn't matter what sort of parenting you do, when you send your kids out into the world, they're going to turn to what they know.

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And if they don't know what they know, they going to sink. Then you go too strong for them to come back, come back to, you know, and that's, you know, right. As a mom, like, I've got a 19 year old, a 14 year old and a three year old, you know, a very different is my 19 year old to your will?

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You are a different person. Person. You know, like, how was growing up with a child? and so but I, you know, had always taught my kids, like, you know, just to break them out of a tantrum, I'll be like, yeah, like, mom, I was like, just small and like, you know, my kids. It's like, you know, it's impossible to say.

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Angry. Yeah. And I've been doing this for many, many years. Like, you know, like I say, cousin one time now. So you're absolutely right. And that's why, you know, breathwork is such a such a calming tool. And I truly believe that every single person should experience and use correctly is a way for kids and adults to regulate and that's exactly right.

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And for me, like, my tool was medication. I didn't have anything else, right? I was like, you misbehaving, you have to take meds. Like there was no tools or no knowledge. It was like guidance. It was just I was a naughty kid. I was out of control taking meds. That's what is going to fix you. There was no, like, internal work.

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So, so you got the you got the rejection. Yeah. And then I and then I was like, all right, whatever. And then I still knew I kind of like thrown under the rug for a bit as you do. You feel a bit better, you know, your relationships not too bad. So you just. Well, yeah, I made the effort.

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So it means something. Then I got canceled. So, you know, like, and it also it also puts a bad taste in your mouth. Like I'm not here to bag out psychology at all. everyone does it differently and whatever. And it helps people different therapies. exactly. Right. I have a great experience with that. And you might not have a great story on someone else or vice versa.

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Vice versa. Yeah. We're not for everyone and everyone's not for us. And that's why, like, you know, we're constantly how you check out and see a variety of different modalities and people because we all facilitate differently. We all have. And that and that goes down in personality too, right? Like when you put yourself out there in social media, ten people are going to love you and ten people are going to hate you.

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And the and yeah, and that's okay. And, and some people love that and feel connected. And so you're like, I yeah exactly. And yeah. And you can't win almost. You might as well just be yourself. Be authentic that where do you hate right. So yeah. and for me I'm like, all right, whatever. And it's a bit off putting.

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Right. Why would I go back and sit back in a room and talk to someone about some deep shit that I've never even told my mates about? When I was treated like that? So it closed the door for me as well. but where doors closed, other was open and, you know, months went by and we met some other friends and they were doing breathwork with some like, people never time we never heard of.

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Oh, no. I was like, I didn't know what it was. I followed, some people through my. And that was good friends. And like, these people were doing breathwork, celebrities and stuff. And I was like, that's pretty cool. And, they weren't normal breathwork is, you know, they had tattoos and stuff that shows up, resonate there.

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And yeah, crazy. Like, you know, it was like you felt alone. Yeah, exactly. And that's exactly what we talk about, right? Because, like, the modern person who sits at a computer desk or loves to have a beer or, you know, lives a modern sort of lifestyle, they look at some people who do breathwork and they. Yeah, that's to me there's like candles and crystals and, and I'm, I'm into some of that stuff.

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But like, you know, they, they there's a level where it's like, you know, people are going to go, this is too weird confronting like it is. It is. And they even thought that we're having a terrorism in birth. Right? Oh, some people look at us and go, what the fuck are these weirdos doing? Like, you know, it's sometimes like, wow.

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But I think what's cool is now you've got all these people like Joe Rogan and Andrew Shipman and all these sort of like, people got Gary Breck, Tony Robbins. I think even Gary Vee would have talked about breathwork at some point. and the science backing it is what's super important. So like you can sit there and talk about it.

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The moon's an energy and that all you want, but people want proof. People want to see what's happening to the blood and the chemicals in the body and the brain chemistry and, frequency in the brain levels changing on graphs and charts and blood samples. So a lot of that is happening. So for me, that was like I wasn't into all that yet, but I was just like, all right, I'll go do it.

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They, these guys are super cool. Looked up to him, follow them religiously and did one of their breathwork practices online. I felt fucking amazing after. It is a feeling. Yeah. If every single person does research, just tries during it to make you 100% normal, what will feel different? you feel common? That's right. You know, like you nerds, you are having a big day.

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Like that's why you feel a little bit. Yeah. And and the thing is, with breathwork, it's you get instant relief. It's like taking a Valium or it's like having a drink of beer or wine. Yeah. And it's like automatic. And then also once, you know the science behind it, you kind of know when you're taking those deep breaths, you're regenerating your cells, detoxifying the body, boosting your immune system, like circulating your blood.

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There things that you don't actually feel happening. But when you're breathing, you know. Yeah. So I went along to workshop was absolutely crazy. Life changing as I said. Went there, went there too. Walked in there. and I think you actually booked it. You were actually I think you were like, just go and do it, you know? Otherwise I was probably going to hold off and not go, which is what people do with our events.

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They're like, oh, I was going to come. And then it got closer and then I was busy. Oh, there's no tickets left. So you are a little bit guilty because we just had. Yeah. I thought like, you know, you were working with the minds as well. I was home. Yeah. And away from you guys like, you know.

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And if anyone listening, how many people feel, especially parents, feel guilty for spending money on themselves to better themselves and time away from their family, and isn't it? We hear it all the time. They know that you need to fill your fucking cup up first before you can. Well, if you if you go out there and do a lot of fucking work on yourself, then your kids are going to get a better version of you.

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So when you put that on stuff, yeah, you walked in. So I walked in and, what to expect, not really knowing what to expect. and just on this, like I grew up with crystals and shit like my auntie, always. She was real spiritual. She always had crystal. She Reiki on me as a kid, which I loved.

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Go to Crystal every time you did it. you know, so. And I used to meditate as well as a kid. Yeah. So it wasn't. It wasn't, like, completely foreign, but, it breathwork thing was, you know, you hear of breathwork, but I didn't really know anything, so going in there did, like, breakthrough breathwork or a breathwork journey or conscious connected breathwork or even hollow Tropic, a form of hollow tropic breathwork, which is basically, at the end of the day, you do like 45 minutes to an hour of conscious connected breathing, which is circulated breathing.

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So it's in and out constantly, which I know now activates your sympathetic nervous system, brings full attention, energy out of your body caused from like, stress or anxiety. you know, and it does things to the brain. it it switches off your, frontal cortex or your ego brain and gives you access to more of your unconscious mind.

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So, you know, parts of the brain, like the limbic system and the amygdala. Amygdala is your watch. How that's constantly looking for threats. So it fires that. And then your limbic system is, memories and emotions and other parts of the brain that therefore you know, everything that we suppress can come forward. So for people who see our videos of people like crying and screaming, that's exactly what's happening.

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Crazy. And thinking that you haven't taken the drug and you've done this with, well, you're releasing TMT dimethyltryptamine naturally into the brain through the pineal gland or the third eye. Yeah. And, that supposed to give you, like, this effect of, like, you know, having a couple of beers or whatever, and then you can like, go deeper and, you know, with clarifying the correct music and things like that.

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bodywork and stuff like that as well can help. When I do graphic arts, I like taking, ecstasy, MDMA. Yeah, big Indian, I take it, and I haven't, I really mean yes, because if you know, it's drugs, but it's like the, the climb, like the first ten, this is the hottest. Yeah. It's it's like, you know, you don't really know what's going on.

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And then all the sudden, you know, like, whoa, fucking like this is like, hit me. It's like a hit. You like, whoa, this feels insane, you know? So I read, I always say, like, breathwork is like a MDMA pill. When I did mushrooms at that time, I said it felt exactly like a really long breathwork journey. Crying, laughing realizations, thinking about things that I wouldn't normally think about consciously on a day to day basis because you're, you know, you will use 90% of unconscious during the day and only 10%.

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It's pretty scary to think that we are programed to a default setting to how we walk, what food we choose, the way we judge people, the decisions we're making all day conscious, unconsciously throughout the day is only, well, consciously 10% like we're 10% real and 90% a robot. Like, that's fucking. That's why I say if you're consciously making 10% decisions, rather, they make sure they're good ones because 90% of it's robotic.

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That's why you're going to do that. That's why you gotta do the internal work. Because when you're triggered, because when you choose poor rather than rich, when you choose sad rather than a happy like your, your that's your internal zero. That's right. And I've always said, you know, people think like oh are there any two there, any one, are there any baby that didn't know, like I had the most important years that those default settings are getting programed the way you say the world, the way you feel about yourself is all within the first few years.

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And what makes you feel safe. And every, you know, we turn to our parents and if they're drinking on drugs or alcohol or fighting or violent actions like. That's right. So that's why I say to parents, like the first two years, the way you treat their baby is the way they're going to be as a human being is.

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And I don't 100% is to it back. This is to right ADHD people trying to do a podcast. I think it's important there. So you jump into the event. Yeah. So jump into the event. Amazing experience left I'm like no, no, you're skipping parts. What? I went to that to forgive my ex and fucking the hate for her.

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The hate for women. the hate for, you know, my victim. I was a victim mindset. I thought the world was against me, and I hated everybody else. So I was like, oh, this projection, and I. I loved you, and I loved what we had, and I didn't want to fuck that up. So that was my drive to go there and just be like kind of religious or whatever.

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and like, oh. And then it was like life changing. So I wrote down in this piece of paper that I forgave myself. I had nothing to do with my ex. It was internal. It was all like childhood. Yeah. And I was like that moment I walked out and I was like, everything is in my control. I used ADHD as a cop out for shit behaved my whole entire life.

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Oh, I got ADHD and that's unconscious too. Like I would just literally just do. And in my online program, literally yesterday, we had a fucking amazing session with everyone that showed up and we were talking about how people are like, oh, I'm this, or I'm this label on that. And I'm like, yeah, but by you saying that out loud, your unconscious brain is constantly making decisions based on your thoughts that you believe that that's what you are exactly.

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And your thought system is that that's who you are and that's how you should act. That's like when someone comes to me with anxiety, depression, they're like, I have anxiety. And my, you don't have that. No. Yes. I do. On prescribed for it. They get angry like that. They're like I haven't, I haven't I say hi I'm not I'm not going to lie I'm not saying you have it.

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I'm not saying that you don't experience those symptoms. They're real, but you don't have it. You don't own that symptom. You don't own anxiety. Anxiety is just a whole bunch of systematic symptoms that happen to you because of problematic, you know, actions that happen to you or, you know, it's happening internally, whether it's your diet creating it or you external or childhood trauma.

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the suppressed emotions stress. It baffles me that, you know, when we do say, like, you know, you don't have depression, you know, like, well, you, well, you can have it if you want to. And people get angry and like, they get defensive, like, well, I said, because they are so used to using that as a corporate excuse because I used to have it's victim mentality.

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It's a I'm a victim. I'm a victim and I'm, I'm, I'm suffering because I have this, you know, and, and from personal experience. And I was younger when I was diagnosed with depression from a very young age, my family had to work on eggshells. When I say that because causes depression. Exactly. That's a form of narcissism, you know?

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And isn't that crazy? Like, obviously like I was depressed, but I, I had circumstances that were causing this in the depression. So, you know, and that's why they say things like, you know, before you diagnosis of a depression environment and so. Well, moving from Australia to Bali, how much different. Yeah, our anxiety is pretty much non-existent. And you still get stress and you got to deal with that with breathwork and not anxiety and when I lived in Australia, I felt constantly anxious and I pretty far in the fast paced, the urgency, the the rudeness and the energy like I truly believe.

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And I said is a feeling. Yeah, it's not a place, it's a feeling. Yeah. And here you wake up in the morning. Everyone's facing the roads that you go. Are these blessings? Yeah. The energy is different and that's right. But you know, going back I just want to say to some people are listening. Yes. There, some sort of things that can be passed down genetically, you know, mental health and chemical imbalances and stuff like that.

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And I get it. I'm not I'm not saying you're going to you have to move to Bali and clear your fucking anxiety and stuff. It doesn't just of course, it's going to help. especially if you're surrounded by toxic people or, you know, your career. Too much pressure and you've got childhood shit and suppressed stuff you never worked on.

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But, you know, I just want to say on that because it's really important that people do turn to us for mental health is that, you know, when somebody when you sit in a room with a person in a white coat and, glasses on and, and certificates on the wall, and you put them up on that pedestal and I turn to you and say, hey, you have this disorder, you have unfortunately, you have depression disorder.

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It's not they don't hate you and go, hey, at the moment you have these symptoms of depression, but we can move through them. They don't give you that hope. Enjoy this. What's going on in the exactly what took its first of all, what kind of childhood did you have? What what what's been going on in the last 12 months?

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Yes. What what what do I what am I exercising? Personal experience. You know, back when Harvey was, when I went to the doctor, didn't ask me anything that was going. I just had a fucking baby. I'd given up my ten year career. I had to move on a man. And he never asked me any of these questions whatsoever.

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I had I real like family issues going on at the time. And his thing was, how do you want to do like this? You feel like this is the moment you want to change that. Here's the medication. And it baffled me because I was in a point where I guess I'm in a fucking in my life. I was in a really bad place.

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I feel guilty around that in the first place because I had everything I wanted. Nobody asked me that question. I just had a baby. Yeah, a child, you know, like no one else has questions. And that is the issue right now. No one's sitting there going, hey, are you happy? What's going on with you? No. No one, no one asks the questions.

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Like I say, you see a man flip out or be really angry and going to want a piece of shit. Not hey bro, like, what's going on, man? Like how I and I usually break down and like, like they're like, you know, fucking. And then you go deeper. What happened with you and your dad? What happened with you as a child?

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Like there's some sort of abuse or violence or something. Every single person obsess over, over weekend wants to be loved, wants to be connected. And. Exactly. And and I don't care how tough you are, we're human beings and that we're pack animals primarily and worked with the toughest men. And when they get into our room and they break down like a little boy that just wanted to be.

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Yeah, I say, what joy. And it makes me go back to like, oh, that's weak, or you want your mommy, blah blah. And I'm like, we're human beings, we're primal, we're pack animals, and we turn to our sources of creation and love, which is our parents for, you know, create reassurance of safety, of love, of care.

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Yeah. Regulation. his himself, you know, and then you give him a hug and tell him to breathe and everything's okay. And then he's like, no, no, here is like a little elbow. And you'd be like, you know, other moms kisses always make things better. You know? So that's what it's all about. All right. Yeah. You're done. I just want to say on the mental health thing, because you went on a tangent.

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On a tangent, on a tangent. Is that when someone comes to me, suicidal mental health, crazy, you know, on drugs and alcohol in a really fucking bad place, wanting to end their life, fucking can't leave their house like the worst of the worst sort of stuff. but you know, obviously you have to look at, like, you need to go see a professional or a doctor, get some testing and a lot of my clients, believe it or not, it's been thyroid.

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Unknown

Yeah. Thyroid has been off. Okay. yeah. And we we talk about that in our class yesterday, someone was like experiencing some things. They got glandular fever a couple of times and someone else in the group because we did Q&A Wednesdays now. And someone in the group said check your thyroid. Oh my god. And then like they're they're talking and they're like on the same things.

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And they're like, yeah, up and down, weight gain, blah, blah blah thyroid. And I'm like, you know, it's not always that simple, but you can't give up. One of the people in our group yesterday had that thought. I checked 14 times before they actually because a doctor doesn't check levels enough to go all you need medication or you need to change something.

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Unknown

So that's what I would just want to say as well. Like, you know, when you've got mental health shit going on, sometimes it's not your externally, it's your internal, what are you putting into your body? And some levels can be Gary Brackett talks about it all the time being deficient of something now, and that program, I'm not going to say name, but she actually has been on.

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Unknown

And so I did medication for three, four years and then finally got the diagnosis that she actually had the so wrongly medicated course. And how many people out there wrongly medicated. Yeah. Medication. And and I always say when there's this broad spectrum of ADHD, depression, anxiety, PTSD right. When you when you put them all on the table, they all connect in a way.

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And those symptoms usually all come down to 1 or 2 things like trauma or, you know, your environment or stress or what you're putting into your body. It's usually an act. You weren't we're not born with it. You were born with a nervous system to react in fight or flight to help us, but then it so sabotages us later because we're not processing correctly, we're not eating correctly, we're not doing thing.

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The modern world is fucking us up. Basically. But like, no way. we're humans having human experiences. That's right. Has taught us ever how to. What's the nervous system? The first thing is you get taught in school is, hey, this, you know, system. This is how your blood works. This is, how your body works is how you parts your brain work, sort of like, you know, body stuff I learned in school was penises and vaginas.

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Sexual ed a secret. I'm not joking, like I don't, but not no one, no one, no one. And even in young kids, you know, when when they're crying or out, you say, hey, that's your nervous system. It's, it's trying to protect you right now. That's why you got these big emotions. Let them process. Let them feel like simple fucking shit like that to help kids understand that, you know what?

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Having having three kids, my two older ones. And, you know, now I'm in this line of work, and I really watch Harvey when he. When he has a tantrum and you watch him cry, kick and scream, process and then laugh ten minutes later because he's moved through that emotion and you see it in a breathwork track journey. You see laughing, crying, anger, and then you see people laughing through the breathwork journey because they pass through the emotion.

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And and it's crazy because it's taken me to have Harvey to really, you know, dabble in and and have a look at what is actually happening and, and actually physically see the nervous system doing its thing. Yeah. You're just like, fuck me. If we could just take the kids are doing Naturally Born to do and we just kicked and I was like, you know, it's been this or watch them way back processing and then, well, watch animals, right as I always say, he and.

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Yeah. And then the, the the gazelle. After a stressful encounter with a predator, I will go and shake and deep breathe and then go back to instantly mating and eating and fucking living a normal life where human beings go through like a stressful experience, completely suppress it all, go to drugs and alcohol, to nominal or pleasure seeking, like sex, buying your food, a pleasure, eating all that sort of stuff, ignoring all the processing.

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Unknown

And then it gets stuck in the body like vessel. the body keeps score go good for a little bit. Bang. So I come back to back to normal, back to the same cycle because I was like, that's right. I'm good for a little bit. Then I go back because you go back to your default setting because it's stuck.

:: 28:44:01

Unknown

Then I get so upset about the word triggered, like I'm like, fucking triggering is great. I mean, you go to work today, you've got work to do and you don't know why. And the thing is, when people get triggered, they contract. Yeah, okay. I'm not going to go in that direction anymore. You need to explore that obviously safely.

:: 28:58:15

Unknown

But like a science triggering it, you need to be like why? And explore and your self-awareness. you don't. If you come to these doors of trigger, then you just stay in one room. So you need a you need to be able to move through those triggers. Once we've gone through the door, that little scary, unfamiliar doorway very.

:: 29:17:06

Unknown

And no, it wasn't. And we have to let the body feel that uncomfortable stuff. So just back to paper that right? Shit, I know, but just back to the people that reach out to me. Anxious, depressed, suicidal. The worst of the worst clients. obviously when I started believing in birth, which were going into, I felt like a massive responsibility that I had to help these people.

:: 29:38:09

Unknown

And, you know, I, I came to a point where I was like, getting trauma dumped on, and we went viral and stuff, which I'm going to get to. But, you know, that isn't, our responsibility. And we're not trained to help people like that. And my thing is, is when someone comes to me in that sort of situation, I will do one thing.

:: 29:59:12

Unknown

I will say, here's a breathing technique. Do not sit in it. Get off your phone. change your diet and exercise into your life. Remove toxic negative people. ground bare feet in the ground. Get to the beach every day. Get sunlight on the body up your water. you know, start listening to positive music and positive podcast.

:: 30:22:17

Unknown

Surround yourself with people who actually love you unconditionally and would clap when you succeed. There's like ten things, right? Do that every day for the next two weeks and call me. If you do that and you you do for the next two weeks, I will work with you. Now if the song is to go back to basics. Yeah.

:: 30:37:23

Unknown

And if those. Yeah, if those, it's those people, those really bad mindsets 99% of the time, 99% of the time, in three days they ring me and they go, Holy shit, whole lot's changed. totally different. And I'm like, well, I'm feeling a little bit. I'm like, well, you don't even need me now. You didn't have to work with me.

:: 30:56:19

Unknown

But you know, there is a reason why we never, ever say the word. You are here. You aren't. And I'm like, I've. I can't stand being called a healer. I'm like, you know, you expect this person. I'm going to put my hands on you. Yeah, I'm going to. And that give you the tools. We're giving you knowledge, we're giving you education.

:: 31:17:03

Unknown

And I'm not saying that there's not healers out there. And anywhere anyone goes themselves a healer is like a fraud or anything like that. But I'm saying, yeah, me, I don't like being called a healer because you come to me. I give you the tools, the knowledge, the guidance and love and the support to get you where you need to go.

:: 31:32:04

Unknown

You do the fucking work. If you think you come to me and I'm going to heal you, you're in. You're you're fucking coming to me for the wrong reason. You know, like like you changed your own life. And I'm happy to receive that love and that, gratification of helping people. That's. I love watching people change other people's chapters of that part of their life.

:: 31:52:18

Unknown

I love that it's like you change your. I'm like, we just held your hand. And sometimes humans just need to have their hand held and say how you just walk this way. Yeah, I like to call it, but kicking. They need a kick in the butt. And that's what we do in our programs. You know, you're not showing up.

:: 32:09:03

Unknown

You're lacking on your fucking daily stuff, blah blah blah. I will knock on your fucking door and kick in the ass because you're, you're you're like the manifestation queen. And I'm not asking you. I'm like, I'm like, okay, if you don't show up, you know, I'm gonna a fucking results. You join a 12 month program and think things are going to change.

:: 32:23:10

Unknown

Fucking know you got $1,000 challenge. And after the woman and I say people don't say people are not doing it. And I'm like, do you want it? How much do you want to do you want to be a millionaire or do you not? Because if you want to be a millionaire, everyone, you got to do millionaire shit. Yeah.

:: 32:39:00

Unknown

Differently. You got to think differently. You got to do things differently, and it's going to be fucking uncomfortable. And unless you're prepared to do the uncomfortable shit, you are going to be in the same position. So we see some people doing the work and then others aren't. So I say, don't come to me when you're still right. I.

:: 32:56:07

Unknown

I literally had this conversation in a, Wednesday zoom session yesterday with an online program because we do, we get results. And this is the reason why we get results. That's all right. And I said, you know, I said to people, like, a lot of the time I get divorced, men come to me and going, oh, my life's in shambles.

:: 33:12:19

Unknown

I'm about to lose my kids and my wife. I get it all the time and I'm all right. I know exactly what we need to do here. Have a little conversation, and then we work out what you need and what's going on. And, usually, unfortunately for the men listening, listen to this. Because the women are going to agree.

:: 33:27:18

Unknown

When a woman wants to leave a relationship. She checked out 12 months ago, bro. You know, and that's the thing I'm emotionally she's disconnected. She stayed for the kids because it was easy. Because she she didn't want to hurt you. She told you there would be signs if she did. They're not signs. I can almost guarantee that. She told you she was unhappy.

:: 33:48:06

Unknown

You know, you see her as this cranky woman. It might be you came home from work and she was totally cranky, but she was the person that tried to tell you multiple times that she was stressed. She was unhappy. It's your thing on her, on that she felt unsupported. And most of the time it comes down to emotionally unsupported by the mile.

:: 34:05:18

Unknown

And she told you and then and I'll say this multiple times, and my family members also, you know, victim to this as well. Yeah. The woman leaves and they go, I didn't see it coming. Yeah. Did you see that coming? She told you? Yeah. So. And I've been in that situation as well as a stupid man. Sometimes she's just learning.

:: 34:27:15

Unknown

Yeah. She's learning. But but but the thing is, is, you know, what happens here is the man goes, I want to change. And I'm like, all right. And they're like. And then when you find out their motivation, I'm going to prove to her that I'm the man she can be. I'm going to prove to. I said, but, bro, so you're telling me you're going to get up at 6 a.m., you're going to pray, you're going to journal, you're going to ground, you're going to connect, you're going to fucking do your affirmations.

:: 34:52:08

Unknown

You're going to do everything. Me and Christie tell you her. Yep. For her. All right. And what if you find out she's with someone else? Then what happens. That's going to be the end part. But then what happens to them? What happens to motivation? Fuck, I did this for you. I was fucking getting up. I was doing all this shit.

:: 35:09:00

Unknown

So then you go and drink, then you don't have sex and you go and party, and then you ruin your life. So when when someone like that man or woman comes to me and I'm finding out your motivation to drive, even if it's for your children, if you're coming to me to be a better mom, a better dad.

:: 35:22:13

Unknown

Now you get the fuck out and come back in with, we need to get you on par with, He has to better my life. for me, it's all about being selfish. Because once it's for internal and you love yourself enough to show up, it's discipline is self-love, motivation. It's got to be for yourself. And like you said, I always say, you know, you can be motivated, motivated to go to gym, motivated to do this.

:: 35:46:00

Unknown

But when the motivation lacks what happens, your your discipline will override that motivation and get you into the gym and get you doing the things and get you excited. But that's right. But. And then. And then when your discipline lacks, as you say, desire comes in. When you when you're when your motivation lacks, what do you desire? Do you desire to be better?

:: 36:07:11

Unknown

Do you desire to be rich? Do you desire to be mentally desire to feel fucking happy with you? Do you desire to be miserable? Exactly 100% on that selfish thing. The problem here is it's from a very, very young age. We're told not to be selfish. Share your toys. As parents, it's all about everyone else, you know, like, why don't you just think about yourself?

:: 36:30:01

Unknown

And then as adults, they're going, you know, like people, places are obviously in that paper, places come from parent places and then that happens. But then as an adult, you like, people come to us and like, hey, be selfish. It is foreign as fuck to be selfish. It feels awful. Yeah. It feels like, hi, this is not good.

:: 36:47:17

Unknown

This is rude. This is wrong. And now we're trying to change again default settings. But most parents in the modern society tell telling like, you must respect me and don't make me feel like this. And you're driving me crazy and you're going to fucking drive me up the wall. So we're constantly telling our kids, we're constantly telling our kids how they make us feel, which is fucking wrong, because then our kids create this inside thing like, I don't want to.

:: 37:12:16

Unknown

I don't want to make mom upset. I don't want to do this. That's a form of narcissism as well, because now your child is tiptoeing around you. Everybody has narcissism. Yeah, I'm going to say this right now. I, I said that's a form of narcissism because it's a form of narcissism. But I hate when someone comes when you guys my age is narcissistic.

:: 37:32:00

Unknown

cool. What does that mean? What? You heard that word on TikTok? You know what I mean? Like, everyone has narcissistic traits. Like when I talk about symptoms of anxiety and ADHD and stuff, it's not a disorder. The symptoms that you feel narcissism is behavioral. It's it's things that we do. And it usually comes from trauma or damaged people.

:: 37:49:16

Unknown

So we tend to get people to do act. And that's right. And when you've got a narcissist in something like he's horrible, he's not 60, look at his childhood, look at their childhood. So I always say like, you know, we all have fun. We can all be spiteful and narcissistic and do narcissistic things and act in a narcissistic behavior.

:: 38:08:16

Unknown

And that's because we're hurting and we're we're our defense mechanism is everything. We're trying to get back into control because we're feeling unsafe and hurt and lost, and we don't know how to, especially men and know the cycle. So let's go. You know, this is this is the perfect example of ADHD symptoms right here. All right boys. But boy when the breathwork left.

:: 38:29:13

Unknown

Fucking amazing okay. Crazy. Why is my life so different? I went home. Google the Google picked up every single book came for him, and he was like, my life is never going to be the same. Yeah. And and and shit changed. I seen it in his face. I seen it and how he was faking. I was going through some really challenging PTSD stuff, you know, I was like, I was saying, this man, so, so, so.

:: 38:56:19

Unknown

Yeah, I'm so motivated now. I'm looking up to these people like, they're fucking God. Like, this breathwork thing is amazing. I started going to other workshops from other people and just exploring breathwork and doing my own stuff. Practice and journaling and fucking feeling good in the mornings. Feeling good throughout the day. I felt more in control of my behavior, ADHD symptoms, going anxiety, going.

:: 39:21:12

Unknown

Yeah, breath breathwork religiously, showing up for myself, following all that breathwork is and and everything that we're doing as well and and being really inspired. Like I said, books and that I reached out to the people that I do the workshop with and I'm like, where do I go for school? So I researched every single school. I'm like, I want to be a breath worker.

:: 39:40:04

Unknown

And I was. They gave me the contacts to go and say, get to the school that you chose was from these people. Yeah. And, I was gonna say that, but it was something along the lines of, yeah. Like, Oh, yeah. When a lot of people do the inner work with us, they go, how do I help other people now?

:: 40:00:14

Unknown

And everyone's got their own magic. Like I work with a lot of men, a lot of people that, you know, going through toxic relationships. You work a lot of women who've been through DV, and because you help the people that you want wanted to be helped a long time ago. Right. So and especially with your own experience, people come to me, I resonate with your story.

:: 40:15:24

Unknown

How do you fucking help me? So, you know, I wanted to help people that have been through my shit, which is probably totally different to the people I was looking up to, but, you know, so I went and weight shadowed breathwork school. It was, like, super expensive and like, I'm working I on the. Yeah, $10,000. I'm working right in the mines.

:: 40:33:07

Unknown

Didn't really know. And I had these, sales. yeah. Yeah, they were fucking ringing me and they're like, oh, it's that divine moment and time on, you know. Then they kept ringing and I was like, all right, fuck it. And then, I think what happened was it was like it worked out to be a good day.

:: 40:50:06

Unknown

Ended up being the next day we sold your house to. So we had we had your house sold and then so you're like, fuck it, we're doing it. So you paid for during this thing. And, you know, the the school was okay. It was like, not how I would run the school, but that that's my opinion. And, I went, I went and ended up paying a lot of people's opinion.

:: 41:15:00

Unknown

There's a lot to say about that school. but I did all the work. I showed up religiously to the things I did, everything they said. Most people from that school came to me and said, I learned more from you than I did from the actual school itself. I already knew everything. I'd read all the books that tell my story.

:: 41:31:24

Unknown

I'd fucking known everything I knew, everything about the nervous system. I still learned shit, and I still connected with people. I'm not saying I'm better, and I didn't know that about that school. Like, obviously just, overhearing some of your stuff, like, you had people there that were there to learn the education to become aggressive. Okay. But there were people training that like therapy session and trauma dumping, dumping, being triggered through school because of somebody said something in the class, which is why we run our classes the way we do, because people are there to do their own work.

:: 42:03:19

Unknown

But in, in the, in a, in a school, they should have a separation of like, here's a bunch of people who need to do the work and want to do the work. And then here's the other side of people who are fucking already done a lot of work or ready to start a business. I was in I was in there with like people who had run yoga retreats for ten years and shit, and and now they're in rooms with people who are trauma dumping into the group.

:: 42:28:19

Unknown

And we did a meditation and someone got triggered and said they fucking were suicidal after a meditation on my this isn't cool. This is making people feel uncomfortable. So I really hope they've sorted all that out. I bring it to their attention. But that's not also not my responsibility. so yeah, halfway through some of that course, they said to do one on ones and small group sessions.

:: 42:50:04

Unknown

so I started doing one on ones and I recorded them, big with people's permission. Yeah. And that were like really, really fucking powerful sessions. I did a few of my best mate. Yeah that's great shout out is doing I was doing it for free or charging a very small amount donation. And, people's lives were changing like it was insane.

:: 43:11:16

Unknown

And I'm doing this breathwork and I'm seeing people crying and screaming, like when I voice first clients that he actually had, she now, like, she's done so much work with us, she is now also a breath doing amazing thing. She did our training, our retreat. She's she helped out and have events and, events. her partner has been in there and this is thing in like with us.

:: 43:38:14

Unknown

Us breathwork is we have probably had about 20 or 30 people that has worked with us and our programs for them. Become breathwork is within been able to control events and then we help get their name out there as well because this is what we are about. Yeah. And that's like we'll get into like how we've networked without the breathwork is.

:: 43:59:02

Unknown

But yeah. So I'm, I'm doing the work. And as I said in our stories in our first podcast, you know, women and men are coming into the home and I'm doing this breathwork. And then, yeah, big release is crying, screaming you you're still not understanding or in the breathwork yet, but then, it was still working the way it works.

:: 44:18:00

Unknown

I'm doing it on my break and I'm like, researching what the best appointment thing is. And I'm bringing in friends that have hair salons and I'm like, what do you use for appointment setting booking systems? And I'm, I'm going through all these lessons learning what works there. And it was like, kind of like what you're doing now with the business, right?

:: 44:35:00

Unknown

You're learning about CRM programs and, you know, email marketing, all this stuff. So what sale system say, you know, and then they said, all right, we got to a point where we had two groups. So I did a group of nine people in my kitchen, which you helped out with, which you were not wanting to help out with, or were you?

:: 44:55:03

Unknown

You might cacao or drinking cacao and stuff. Ceremonial cacao. I was, not really for it. I didn't know. I was extremely naive. I didn't know anything about breathwork. I was dealing with my own massive issues, and I was also dealing with who am I as I'm with a guy that is actually doing the work. So I had a little bit the shifting going on at that time as well.

:: 45:17:22

Unknown

And I was really upset because he was this man that was working with so many people, changing lives. And but I wouldn't do it because I was extremely just not for it, for a shut down by that time. And so I was like, we're going to do this and all this, obviously trying to be a great partner and support you.

:: 45:36:06

Unknown

We didn't know where you stood. You know it, I didn't I was very confused by you know, I throw out your smartphone. So yeah people and we had you know we did nine people in this space and I did this for our solo. I did meditation, and I got influence and inspiration from other workshops that I'd been to.

:: 46:00:00

Unknown

but, yeah. And of course, I was in what I was doing, and I was just taking bits and pieces from everyone and adding what I thought. And throughout my, throughout my, 1 to 1 sessions, I did this while I was the way it worked on this breathwork. Right. And I'm having all this hate and all this anger come through my breathwork.

:: 46:18:18

Unknown

I'm sitting on the end of my bed or in the gym and I'm like, fuck you. Like I did this little like, fuck you. And I had some tears and I'm like, fuck you. Like I'm good enough and like, fuck you. How do you say this about me? Or like, fuck things that weren't going right for me? And like, fuck yeah, going from the world that you once knew.

:: 46:37:14

Unknown

That's right, New World. You're still in the mines. Your friends now I for you used to be with all the time out there drinking every night after work. You're all of a sudden not drinking. Well, I, I'm going to join the morning. Go drink your fucking crazy. Like. Yeah. So, I had, I had of my, say who I grew up with, like, I was doing breathwork, at, like, 3:00 in the morning.

:: 47:03:06

Unknown

and a meditation. And he goes and he said on the comment, he goes, if I seen someone doing that, I'd be like, what crack are they on? And I'm like, it's okay to not understand what I'm doing. But when I, when I and yeah. And then and then I don't go towards it like I in boxing but like, man, do you know the science behind breathwork, what's happening with oxygen and parts of your brain and your lungs and your blood and your body.

:: 47:24:09

Unknown

And I don't care that I don't give a fuck. I probably wanted to be accepted this new version. So as you said, you know, I was hanging out, biking gang members, toxic masculinity, you know, I grew up in, you know, areas where, you know, you fought and you drunk and all that sort of stuff. So I'm at at the moment to this new out.

:: 47:44:03

Unknown

Yeah. So like, I'm sort of like jumping the fence at this moment I felt like and I will say, I've done breathwork with a lot of these sort of friends, presidents of black clubs over race and all that sort of stuff, which I will get into. And that has been like an awesome journey as well, working with those sorts of men and people from my past on that side, like, people from school even, or people from like we've done a full circle.

:: 48:08:13

Unknown

So we used to hang out all these bad people. Not bad, but people still growing and moving through life. And then we've met again over in this like breathwork. Well, and a different world. It's right. It's quite cool. So did these nine people. People I've told my neighbors. People like crying, screaming on the floor. Absolutely crazy. You very.

:: 48:27:01

Unknown

You're like. You're like helping me hold space. I'm like showing you like how we do. We did like, a very gentle sort of breathwork. But people were still releasing and we had some amazing people that day that we're still friends with now, who've done a lot of work with us. But we did did all this sort of stuff.

:: 48:43:20

Unknown

And then, you know, I had I told the school and like, we had videos and stuff of that in the schools, like, yeah, well done, well done. Like other people were doing groups of like 2 or 3 or still on one and then went, yeah, yeah, the school was for me and I had to do another two sessions, two full sessions for, progress and write it all down.

:: 49:04:14

Unknown

And what happened and, you know, like, document it and then, so the second one I did was that a community hall never had a community hall before. This rang the one down the road and paid the fucking thing. And it was 19 people. My mum came and it was like all these other people, they just organic from social media, not running ads, not putting fliers out just to and just, you know, we got a little speaker and an, a stick, a sage melody on stage.

:: 49:32:07

Unknown

And my blessing people. And, you know, you might think you're making out. And, so we've talked a little bit now I'm up there in front of 19 people just talking about the nervous system, and I'm very sciency, which I've changed now because people get bored when I go into very sciencey stuff on the human biology and the biochemistry stuff.

:: 49:53:04

Unknown

People just want to do it. So, yeah. And then we the next one was out in Culham and around the bush. We had that. It was 45 people and I was still working around the mine. So it's coming back and running these events and, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I shared it with the school. Everyone was like, well, 45 people, I what the fuck?

:: 50:10:09

Unknown

And I was like my third or fourth. We had people helping us out. Yeah. So we had, I know, I know, the school taught you that it was like 771 ratio for people and we were doing like big releases. So, you know, we made sure we had enough qualified other breath workers and that at our events, and, and I wasn't qualified yet, but I was I was given permission and, and breathwork is a gray area as well.

:: 50:35:11

Unknown

We know that, it is a very gray area, but we, under the, insurance because, you know, we had insurance with them, so. Yeah. And I had my own public liability as well, which I went and got under training. So I actually had my own insurance and I was like, I had school training and I was allowed to be doing it.

:: 50:53:08

Unknown

I wasn't doing anything illegal. and running events with. Yeah, public liability in case you just have to have that anyway when you run any sort of events. Yeah. So, then I'm sitting on the end of my bed breathwork 3:00 every single morning breathing. And I'm saying I'm going to do 100 people doing this shit. I'm going to do 100 people.

:: 51:15:15

Unknown

And you're like, I don't know how. And I remember I wanted to do more luxury breathwork. I want to like nice hotels and I want to boogie breathwork, you know, I want a really nice venues. And we ended up, I ended up renewing. So I'm going to get this Airbnb in Perth. I'm going to do like 50 people in like, this mansion.

:: 51:32:05

Unknown

You know, I'm just going to hire this, like, and you're like, where the fuck we're getting this money from? But we weren't aligning. You didn't understand. You didn't know what else to do. You didn't even like the crying and the screaming because you were like, you didn't get it. You didn't understand how was helping me. Like it was really affecting me, like I was you also going through your own shit, my stuff.

:: 51:48:16

Unknown

But I'm also a big impact and I, you know, I'm me crying. You still now are still now when we're holding space and people that we're really like how I feel. I do a lot of things. Energy cleansing stuff. Now, I've done so much like I'm work, I know so much stuff. but, you know, I'm in the.

:: 52:04:15

Unknown

The true key here is I've done a lot of my own work back then. I hadn't done too much my own work and all those enjoying life because it's helping you. How well you were doing. You're doing the cake. How you make the best cooker. Shout out to Cooker Collective as well. Our beautiful friends from there actually taught me how to do that.

:: 52:19:23

Unknown

And yes, you did breathwork with them as well. And I have to and yeah, so kick our collective is where we were getting our stuff from and you were making it and it was tasted so amazing. People were buying it because you made it taste so good. so, so, yeah. You were trying to support me even though you'd like, didn't understand it.

:: 52:39:10

Unknown

You're going through your shit. It was confronting the label. Yeah, we had the label, which we were like, co, you know, we're wearing it at our events or wearing on stage, stuff like that. So. So

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:: 53:23:11

Unknown

So. So moving forward, I'm like, I'm going to do this tour. I went and hired a graphic designer that you were using with the label label.

:: 53:32:06

Unknown

And I said, can you do me up a poster? I'm going to do it in this time. When this was going on, I had been done my first breakthrough breathwork session. That's right with me. Yeah. So you started to believe in a squat? The results were. And you started doing daily breathwork as well. on that first wall.

:: 53:51:00

Unknown

Cos if you haven't had that session. But, I literally came out of that session and was like, Holy fuck, you're not. I'm back to the monster world and it's, you know, this, I had never experienced anything in my life that gave me an instant release. Like, I truly felt like that emotional, sick, heavy pain that was in my body flow out through my fingertips.

:: 54:18:08

Unknown

And again, if you haven't listened to one another podcast, please go back. It's a three part. Yeah it is. It was the moment my life truly changed. And my life has never been the same since. Because the first book. And so now I had the whole the world needs to know this because I've been in pain majority my, my whole life.

:: 54:37:22

Unknown

and I have done everything I done self dormant cause it ever came out as a landmark for, I've done Reiki, I think, kinesiology, I've done blocks of passage, I've done it all. And so when I finally had this, like, I don't know how we're making this work, but it is our job now to help as many people as possible, because I my motto in life is to save the world emotionally, right?

:: 55:01:05

Unknown

That's right. I never quite knew how I was going to do that. I've always been in the housing industry, you know, and like I said, all these things have all done all sorts of personal tryna. so I believed it, you know. So when we came to me with these crazy ideas because Bach is the first thing, like swim in the deep in and let's fucking get the numbers right, you know?

:: 55:23:13

Unknown

So we kind of made a bit of a thing you said to me, hey, I'm really drawn straight into it. And do you honestly think that we're going to get paid? How are we going to fold flights and all this stuff? So I think was, you know what, as long as we get ten people and each of these plays, it'll pay for itself.

:: 55:44:00

Unknown

We'll go, we'll go. Well. And I said, even if one person shows up, I'll fucking do it. And that's what I was about at the time. I was like, I don't care. Like I, I just wanted to do it. And I'm like, and I'm like, part of me. This crazy belief manifestation was like going to do it. And the other half was scared as fuck, but I didn't care.

:: 56:03:08

Unknown

But what gave me the motivation to do this was, add these two videos. Yeah. And, there were of two people that done better with me. One the one heavy, heavy activation, heavy releases, crying, screaming. Some of them are laughing uncontrollably through this lot of movement, a lot of shaking, convulsing. And if you guys that are listening really want to learn more about sort of like trapped emotions, suppressed emotions, the somatic work paid off, the veins waking the tigers were really good about somatic healing and how we can move through things in the brain and the body and vessel.

:: 56:43:03

Unknown

van cos, the Body Keep Score is an amazing book about I, I read that book before I even knew about. Yeah. a friend of mine at the time. It's a great book to understand who you are and what your body is going on. Right. And when you understand it and you go and then you're going to breathwork, when you actually understand your body, then it makes sense to why you're lying on the ground crying and screaming and releasing shit from your childhood, or from breakups or from childhood trauma, parents, whatever.

:: 57:14:23

Unknown

But there's a lot of good things that come through as well and level you out and balance in the body. And there's a lot of health and wellness to the breathwork as well. So, so, so I know I do. Yeah. And then I there's two videos, two videos of people crying, screaming. I was really insecure about them, didn't really want to share them on social media.

:: 57:32:04

Unknown

But I was like, this work works so powerful. And we even did some breathwork the other day where, well, I quit, but this is just it's just amazing. Now I after doing breathwork for nearly three years, I still every breathwork session go. How crazy is that? That we can breathe and people know you can see someone in front of you, talk therapy and talk about the most, deepest, darkest stuff.

:: 57:50:02

Unknown

They might have a tear, they might break down, they might not. They might just talk about it like numb to it. But when you breathe and lay someone down, everything just comes forth like. Like I'm talking about fu convulsing, shaking, uncontrollable crying. you know, it's it's insane. So. Yeah. Anyway, two videos and, I was working around the mines.

:: 58:10:10

Unknown

I'm going to, I'm going to put on TikTok. I'm going to say like. And I think the caption was none of your because none of my friends on TikTok, sorry, Instagram or Facebook. I was like, not on my bike. You might. So my friends that I've grown up with, or even my family would be out doing way.

:: 58:26:15

Unknown

So yeah. So I'm always going to do something weird. So I'm like, I'm like, all right then, I'll put it on TikTok. I don't really use TikTok. It went sort of semi viral on there, like years ago when it was like musically or whatever. And I'm like, all right, whatever. And I'll put it up. And I was still living in fear of judgment and fear of failure.

:: 58:44:24

Unknown

So I was like, if someone puts a nasty comment, I'll delete the whole video, which that was my belief system, right? Just run away from any negativity. So, which I still work through today, I'm aware of some things that happen and I'm like, so, put this video up, told you about it, and I said, like, you know, if anyone fucking says anything, I'll delete it.

:: 59:05:03

Unknown

And the caption was, time went Healy, which is really powerful. Time won't heal you. And it's really cool because time doesn't heal. And it's crazy because we've grown up with time. you get over it, you get over time heals, keep it together, all that shit. So just get through it. Just get through it. Yeah, yeah. In time, things would be better.

:: 59:27:13

Unknown

So, I woke up in the morning. I 80,000 followers. Tock 100 some. I found my Instagram fucking. And I'm talking, like hundreds of people reaching out for help and hundreds of messages. Hundreds. And I'm like, Holy fuck. And then, I was away at work and I was checking my TikTok every five minutes, and I'm ringing you going like, I fucked 100,000 views during this.

:: 59:51:07

Unknown

Yeah. And you're like, Holy shit vibe. Like, if I had wasn't a million views. If I had million, I'm going to quit my job. I quit my job. We're fucking out of here. I'm quitting my job. And I was like, like, we're having flights at this time. And yeah, you're like stability, stability and sustainability. And I'm like, I want to chase my dreams and do this.

:: 00:10:03

Unknown

You're holding me back. I'm happy, you know, like, I want to do my thing. You hold me back on like you have our father, you know, like, you know, I hit and my briefcase going off like. Yep. So I can. You can rely on Amanda because her mom again, you know. So I had a lot of things going on.

:: 00:26:21

Unknown

Have you ever listened to my whole cost? You know, my cost. So, yeah. So hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. And I'm like, on my phone, just like trying to support all these people. And there's some real negative shit in two different ways. Yeah. There's a lot of people trauma dumping on me. I've heard shit that I didn't think happened to humans in real life.

:: 00:44:12

Unknown

I thought it was all part of movies. This is also a moment in time for you. Yeah. I think you started to get quite humble because I think beforehand you were quite you. Yeah. You're the world that you were in beforehand, that you were in there and it just. That's right. Now you sitting there going, how do people people from.

:: 01:06:17

Unknown

So I hit the first million followers I sorry the first million, views. now we're up to I think one of our videos are about to click over 100 million. So ones, 100 million views and we've got nearly 700,000 followers on TikTok now, we, we have like we do more of our engagement on sort of Instagram and stuff like that because it's just you can't keep up, you can't monetize 20,000 comments on one video.

:: 01:31:20

Unknown

It's crazy. And there's a lot of mixture of people not really wanting help or needing help if they need us. They know where to find this on Instagram message or something says ways to get work with us now. Yeah, well, you know, I think like I said, you know, so so people were basically like, you know, all over America, NBA players reaching out to me.

:: 01:50:09

Unknown

I'd let Bible fucking 5 million followers reach out to me. I've had people all around the world see same on my videos, and I'm like, I've only just done this. and you blow up fast. You you blow up. Yep. Last boss. And and to be honest, no way. I'm not ready for this. I'm. I simply wasn't, you know?

:: 02:13:07

Unknown

And there was, you know, this world of, like, not knowing who I was and where I was going and just trying to find out who I am feeling. I have massive responsibility. Yeah, that's that's what was heavy. I'm like, okay, all these people want me and my sort of, my sort of messaging was anxiety, depression, trauma.

:: 02:35:09

Unknown

Trauma was a heavy word. I just used constantly here. You're trolling here, you're trauma here, you trauma. And, you know, anxiety, anxiety, anxiety, ADHD. So you're attracting that clientele, and people are looking at you as if you can help them. I'm God, and I felt a little bit like God at the time, to be honest. And I was just like, you know, I was like, up here.

:: 02:54:04

Unknown

And it was like crazy like that. It's because you knew how powerful this work was. I knew, I knew, I knew how I could help people in the work. So you were like, you knew how it changed my life. I changed lives in front of me. It changed your life. And your story. And that time I do, I need help, I can help them.

:: 03:13:04

Unknown

But this became sort of easier. And it's crazy. It's crazy because right now, a lot of people listening to this going on, I've seen all this shit, and I'm now listening to them and I want to work with them. And now we're actually moving away from that, which we're going to talk about. We're moving into like more away.

:: 03:26:17

Unknown

We're not doing that. We're going to talk about it, but we're moving away from this now because we've been in this and it doesn't really serve us. It's not sort of who we are anymore. It's not that we've grown changing that direction. That's all there is to it. But at the end of the day, for you, you you are a fun, lighthearted person.

:: 03:47:01

Unknown

I'm, I'm I'm a guy. A lucky fucking. Yeah. extroverted, funny, class clown, happy, big energy sort of guy. And I found myself having conversations with people, like, all over America. Right. I'm getting messages saying I was kidnaped. I was kidnaped at this age. My mum was shot in front of me. my dad fucking killed my whole family.

:: 04:11:23

Unknown

And then me. And then I'm like, I'm like, I didn't know that this shit happened, like, the worst of the worst shit that you thought happened in movies and having a real people. And I'm like, you know, I've got my own trauma and everyone has trauma and childhood trauma. I hate the word trauma. I now say life experience because we all have life experience.

:: 04:28:11

Unknown

People come to me, I don't really have trauma tonight. And then I'm like, let's talk. I was bullied at school. Traumatic. But I just want to say on this, this is fucking important. you know, and your parents break up when you're seven. Fucking traumatic. You know, you were dumped by a girlfriend at 16, and then she went with you.

:: 04:45:01

Unknown

My fucking traumatic. The world around you. Your life experience creates who you are now and how you see the world. So, you know, for me, trauma wasn't just, you know, rape and murder and violence and like, all these horrible things, life experiences, like traumas, think too much, too fast. Success, which happened to me too much, too fast was traumatic, overwhelming.

:: 05:07:14

Unknown

I learned anxiety, imposter syndrome, didn't really fucking know what the fuck was going on. So, and I'm looking up to all my peers who turn their back on me, which will get into. And for me, I'm like, just trying to fucking work out what the fuck is going on, because it was all so much so fast. I was it, I was all over the internet.

:: 05:23:24

Unknown

I didn't know what the fuck today you work in the mines. Then we had a baby. It was literally it was literally. I literally wouldn't go back to what you were about to say, but I went from nine people in my kitchen to 170 people, and I was on stage, and within three months. And that upset a lot of people, a lot of my peers, a lot of my school was like, what the fuck are you doing?

:: 05:45:22

Unknown

And we will get into that. But yes, go back to what you were going to say. Oh, just like, you know, we just want to talk about life. You know, at that time, like, you know, you felt a massive sense of responsibility. I was heavy, it was hard. Heavy. It was hard. You also feel like I'm. I'm glad I'm not a psychologist.

:: 06:01:24

Unknown

I'm not a psychiatrist. I'm not felt this urgency that you had. And I knew I could help people, but, But how? I would help someone in America who was living in that car, who had the worst trauma that ever happened to them in their life. And I had no money or no resources. And I'm like, talking to this person all day, every day.

:: 06:19:20

Unknown

And you're like, and you're like, what are you doing? And I'm like, man, if I don't talk to this person, they're going to fucking end their life. Like, I think that's where this is like, no. And also, you are throwing into a world. Yeah. About. So yeah. Having so many people reaching out to more than you can even keep up with, like, yeah, you just get through one of those 50.

:: 06:45:03

Unknown

Yeah. messages because it's heavy to light. And I look at psychologist and I'm a new respect for them. And, one thing I think as well is, like, all these therapists and psychologists and all that, you know, they all get mascot imposter syndrome at some point. And like, what I do hate is like, all these, like, people out there that a therapist or like, whatever you do, any fucking breathwork, psychologist, psychiatry doctor, lawyer, whatever you fucking do.

:: 07:12:11

Unknown

And they try and act like this professional way post. We are real people that help real people. We we drink, we chat, beers, maybe cocktails. We get on there and say we fucked up in business, we lost money, or we didn't get it right. And I didn't get it right the whole time doing breathwork. And that's all part of learning and how I've become more.

:: 07:30:05

Unknown

I've come today and learning. Yeah. You know, even on that last line about getting it perfect, life is about learning from your mistakes, growing from them, and then fucking teaching other people to follow the right path. Yeah, and you had to. Everyone has to go through like has that we do impact other people. We, you know, you can thank ask all the fuck ups we've had.

:: 07:50:19

Unknown

Yeah, we have to go through this and then we can going and help other people. Yeah. We're not upset with our personal upset the path that we took. But you know like but there's learning there that breathwork those videos that blow up so fast, you didn't know who you were at all, like, all of a sudden. And I'm trying to you do with your own stuff.

:: 08:12:13

Unknown

I'm trying to. I'm still living in fear of judgment and fear of failure. At this point. And I'm getting messages like, this guy's a scammer. These are actors. I'm getting a religious people coming on. They're saying that you're doing the devil's work. You're going to you're going to fucking, you know, burn in hell. And I'm like, and all this shit's affecting me.

:: 08:31:02

Unknown

And then you've come to me and put this lot on me and going, a lot of these people that are reaching out for help, everyone's like, this works. Amazing, modern, well done. I had breath workers, messaging me saying, you know, fucking what are you doing? You're like, this is like, you're doing the wrong thing. And then all these people started talking and like, you know, I'm getting messages from breathwork schools and people saying like that fucking.

:: 08:52:23

Unknown

They're going to shut me down. What's this thing going on? So like, I'm not only dealing with, like, all this heaviness of what the world that we need help for me, and then, like, I've jumped this fence, right? What? I realized there was spiritual ego, but I've jumped this fence of, like, Porky's and strippers and drugs and alcohol.

:: 09:10:16

Unknown

Not that I used the drugs, but I was around it. I was around, you know, fighting violence. My mates, my mates who like to go out and punch, fucking the fuck out of other people, which like, I don't understand. I've been involved in fights and all that sort of shit, and that's what I knew. Right? And but I still fight for my friends today.

:: 09:28:07

Unknown

Like that's in me. Like if I see my friend in trouble or someone trying to hurt my family, that's who I am. but I use that wisely now, obviously, and, and have more control of my ego and things like that. But choosing your battles is what we call that. But, you know, and then now I've jumped this fence where I feel like I was, you know, in the breathwork world where you're going to be loved and respected and guided and supported and everyone's about love and like, no breathwork is attacking me on social media, sending me messages, you fucking this or that?

:: 09:58:10

Unknown

And I'm like, is this? Am I a bad person? Like, am I? Is this jealousy? Is this, is this whatever? And then that mate, just watching my partner, it fucked me up and slammed and it's because I just wanted to be loved and accepted. That's all I wanted. Were coming from a good price. Well, people were saying I was one.

:: 10:20:06

Unknown

One comment we get all the time is I'm exploiting people for money. So you wanted to help people. And this is the sad thing is that you never went into this to be an awful person. You. There's a definitely a, I'll be honest, there was a sense of like, where I got to like this point where I thought I was God, and I was, like, doing all these suck.

:: 10:39:00

Unknown

And I felt powerful, which was, you said, but but I was, I was, I was fucking hell. And I felt like I had this superpower, which was breathwork, and I could just heal anybody. And then obviously through many, many years of me doing work on myself and research and all that sort of stuff, that I had completely changed my work and the way we do things.

:: 10:58:13

Unknown

And, so yeah, so it's just back to onto that. So when this happened, when these people were saying these things, sad for me as your partner to watch you just go downhill. And I knew I was good at what I did. I knew I was good at what I do, you know, like, and I'll be honest, there was that one time when the school was on a foreign.

:: 11:20:17

Unknown

And so, so what had happened was, I'm going to say this because I want to this is my story and I'm going to say this. So I, after those viral videos happened, we had a massive following. And that's when I was like, we're going to do the tour because I'm having people Sydney, Sydney, Sydney, Melbourne, Melbourne, Melbourne, Adelaide.

:: 11:38:00

Unknown

So I had this and I knew how social media worked and I knew how to go viral organically then. And I'm like, you know, whatever. And then I'm like, well, let's fucking let's help Australia. So I said, I want to do this Australian tour now. Every tour we started to do got bigger. So, the biggest one was Perth that was bigger.

:: 11:55:23

Unknown

So like 40, 45 now I went around the map as you would drive it. I don't know why. That's just what I did. And I created that poster for I believe, the label designer. Then I did Adelaide, we went to Adelaide. It was near 50 people nervous as fuck. I was nervous and people shocked that that was a fucking awesome thing.

:: 12:15:16

Unknown

We left there. We met Pete, who follows us around the country now doing, our videography and photography. That was like 45 people. Then the next one was Melbourne. That was 99 people. And I'm telling you, I sat on the end of my bed for a year straight, manifesting that I would have 100 people in front of me.

:: 12:36:05

Unknown

And I was like 99, like one person off. There was no young people in the very next one, Sydney 100, and you were doing all the marketing and everything for the label and I came to you before this. I skipped a bit. Sorry. Oh, are you going to sell this? yeah. And I said to you, you did all the marketing course and I said, I want you to run ads for me, and you go, I don't know how to run ad service base.

:: 13:02:22

Unknown

I did product like I work with Jay. Right? You know, he teaches us had any product base. So he went to Jay, right. And he's like, oh, now we just do product or whatever. I can't remember the exact camera. Is that right? And then, and I was like, well, just do the same thing you're doing with your silly dancing with our stuff.

:: 13:18:00

Unknown

When he sold out our peach colored hoodies and shorts and do it with this. So he did it. And we started watching people coming in, people coming in, people coming. And tickets are so ding ding ding. You know we high five. We still high five. Now when we get a ticket it's a thing. I was like, yes, we know we're going to change someone's life.

:: 13:34:15

Unknown

And then thing I didn't go to a small venue for the council, you know, and then and then the going up and I'm like, Kirstie, like my heart's beating every time. Every time you said, there's a ticket on my it's turn it off, turn the ads off, man. Like, you know, I'm ringing a week before these things, fucking canceling venues and trying to get bigger venues.

:: 13:53:07

Unknown

Impossible. And no one can fit this amount of people on yoga mats, like, you know, indoors with fucking music and where we can be loud, you know, because you got people crying and screaming and we're going to like libraries and shit, you know, any possible coordinates? A library. So I which is all fucking being crazy lessons, getting venues and stuff, this is all things we didn't know, yo.

:: 14:12:05

Unknown

Learnings along the way. You know, like we've we've almost been kicked out of venues because people come and go, what the fuck's going on? This room are like, get out. People are healing. Like, get the fuck out of here. Like, kids are next door wondering what the fuck's going on. So, you know, this is all been learning, and then you know, we will eventually got the Gold Coast.

:: 14:28:09

Unknown

We took the whole family with us. And that was a really proud moment. You know, I came into you and I said to a, this is the proudest moment of my life. I've actually never felt this proud of myself, in this moment, you know, and I. And I felt it in my family. Yeah. And I had, I thought I fucking I, I'd done everything right, you know, and then and I just want to say on this that we had, I think about 20 people working with us, I had 20, I had no I was just 15, 15 qualified breath workers and therapists working on that I hunted for.

:: 15:07:12

Unknown

I went on social media and I'm like, wait, we go to this big group of people, we know this, and they loved us. We got them on stage and we're like, promote everything you do for Gold Coast. We we want you guys. If you guys love any of these people. 15 people lined up. It was like a half an hour to an hour.

:: 15:22:00

Unknown

Let them all speak and people coming up to our offer and go, why did you let us do that? And I'm like, because I want you guys to win too. And I want people on the floor to have help if they didn't, like, also resonate with us. And I want you to share your story and go. And I couldn't believe it.

:: 15:37:00

Unknown

We tagged them three and we didn't care how that would be. Yeah. And that's the thing. And on this before we get to this next point, you know, you get in a hair salon and not be a hairdresser. It's trial studio. I know me, okay? You can own a restaurant and not be a chef. That's right. And we learned that in the business world now we work with some of the top, top real estates in Bali.

:: 16:02:12

Unknown

good friends of ours. And they don't have any real estate license. They own the company. And when they sell a piece of property, they run it through their business. And this world is wrapped up on this. You must have this tiff, okay? And you must be this person and blah, blah, blah, and and and and and and I'm going to say I wasn't qualified at the time of doing this.

:: 16:21:16

Unknown

I wasn't. And whether you think that's right or wrong in the spiritual world, you go out to the fucking Himalayas and do fucking some healing session with a fucking monk or an old Indian elder. Do you think I have a piece of paper that fucking gives them that? No they don't. They have experience is what they have. You were in school, are you?

:: 16:42:11

Unknown

I well, I do everything I did was right like I. Yeah. So then with this we had an all clear by the school. There is an we were four I think you were four weeks off. I was just about to get qualified. I was in the I was in the process of getting my certificate. Yeah. And I'll just want to clarify that we have 15 other qualified at this event at this event.

:: 17:09:05

Unknown

So this event was crazy in this world that I had created. And I was so proud of and everyone there is filming and there's fucking Instagrams going bananas like where on stage with only six hour events and people were tagged people that I looked up to, people. The reason I got into this world, for people that I looked up to as God, I was dressing like them.

:: 17:31:24

Unknown

I was talking like them. I was like, so inspired and motivated by them. And the crazy thing here is, is that, you know, one of the things that they said that, you know, we've both been to, they've been I'd never been to the event. I did not look up to these people. I did think that they were good at what they did.

:: 17:49:07

Unknown

I, I'm not a person like that. Yeah. It was my thing and I, and I, and I dragged you along, got dragged my name, got dragged through the bog through this and it was so, so basically what happened was they messaged me that night. So proudest moment of my life actually we got messages from multiple friends saying, hey, these people are talking about you.

:: 18:07:22

Unknown

And so the first one was we made got back to the hotel room. I was standing in the bathroom and I said, proudest moment of my life. Then boom, it was all into this person's life. And I had this sick gut feeling. And you looked at me. I said, what's wrong? And I said, what? I said, I got out of the shower.

:: 18:28:01

Unknown

I put my towel around to make sure the person and I had a message from someone saying, hey, we ended up with like several messages message from someone who said, Holy fuck, have you seen this? And they're screenshots and all like, this is pure jealousy. And I was just blown away. Blown away that. So one, two people that are in this world who are meant to be the most top of the range, fast to what they did.

:: 19:01:22

Unknown

Working with them was key people. was stripping us down, running me down that more. And I was like, you two are not in this for the right reason. I'm in my kid because I generally care about human beings. I could never do that to anyone. And if they could, they would have got in contact with you directly.

:: 19:26:08

Unknown

But they they told me to do my certification as well, and, I felt I had to. I did everything they asked me to do. And now I told you apparently, like I and I did say like I was like the friend I was friends with at the time, closely to where I grew up with them and questions for them.

:: 19:45:21

Unknown

So I'm like, you know, we're all friends or homies, you know, like whatever. And then, yeah, all the all of them, every everyone in that thing. And I was like, just trying to find me and do my thing. And then I get this message saying, like, we're going to sue you and you're copying us. Now I pay and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

:: 20:01:14

Unknown

No, no, this is not this is not what I want to be. Actually down to the fucking Wiggles. Oh, man. Like it's completely different. What we do is. But apparently there was a breathwork technique that was copied word for word, which was. And I was inspired by it, and I did my own sort of breathwork technique and added different parts.

:: 20:20:06

Unknown

And I didn't know that just doing breathwork could be copied. Like I was like, okay, I was doing breath holds and breathing in and just like a sign that anyone out there wants to copy any of. Yeah, any anything that I do on stage or I'm online program, if you like it, please do it. And this is the reason why.

:: 20:39:19

Unknown

Because we are here to inspire you. Yeah. Because my main goal in life is to save the world emotionally pain free. So if there's stuff that we're doing that you love, do it at your fence, use it with your clients, use it. That is what we're all about. That is integrity truth or that's right. You know, like, I want you guys to share this and we send we send oh, oh so many people to do breathwork training and we and I'm just going to I'm going to do a shout out right now.

:: 21:12:11

Unknown

Your Hannah's from breathless Expeditions and amazing man. We've done breathwork training there, along with other places, but we, we send everyone there. It's a five day a trade out in the snowy Mountains. haze, haze. A knowledgeable, cool, down to earth guy who gets it, and, he he's just amazing with cold therapy, and he's just, like, one of the best people in the world.

:: 21:34:20

Unknown

So breath. Right? Yep. So you want to get qualified? Yeah. Breathwork? No. You came from us. Yeah. So? So that week was a whole week of being slandered and smashed online with stuff that wasn't even true. Like you said, you didn't go to any of the events. they said multiple events, and you went to one. that was saying things that we done or said or were involved in, which wasn't true.

:: 22:00:21

Unknown

Then they contacted my school and this was like, this was like then. And then I'm like, I want my blood like. And I'm like, my little boy inside was like, I like, I wanted to stop breathwork. I was like, no, I'm not in this for this. Like, I'm not a competition. I'm not, I'm out there, follow my dream, my passion.

:: 22:16:15

Unknown

And these people are seeing me as like I'm trying to either copy them or beat them on. And and at this point, I still looked up at them like I was like, you guys are doing awesome things. They said was where you had to wait ten years to get to where we were, and I'd come in just like that.

:: 22:31:11

Unknown

I didn't mean to come in, just like I just come in and just like that, I wasn't like, I wasn't like, I'm going to fucking do this better or bigger. I was just in that month, I didn't even want to do these big events because your marketing went crazy. And I was like, turn the marketing off. And it was all just like, it all just happened so fast.

:: 22:48:23

Unknown

And like, we're just always just trying to do the right thing. And then like when you're at your top, there was a switch when Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. and I listened to it the other day and they said, you know, when you're at your top, it's great that. Oh, yeah, that was Denzel Washington. When you hit the top and know that the devil's coming.

:: 23:09:08

Unknown

Yeah. And that was I'm not joking. I was literally like you looking. And then half an hour later worst, worst worst. And I'm going to tell you this about three months before this or a couple months before I was in the shower and I was sort of plateauing, like I had all this breathwork stuff going on. I'm still working on the minds, but I was sort of like, wanted more out of life.

:: 23:30:10

Unknown

And I'm like, God, universe, give me a fucking lesson. And this was the biggest lesson and a lot this fucked me up for about six months to a year and well, yeah, heavily that, but then other things. But, you know, for me, I'm so cold now with people I actually fucking, you know, we're in we're in Bali the other day and our friends.

:: 23:51:05

Unknown

Are you going to make this breathwork? I said, sound interested and now I'm closing myself off the opportunity because of trauma and fear which these people had done to us, they went hands on us for a week or so posting our logos photos. We we captured it. Oh, and I didn't reply to nothing. I replied to absolutely nothing and sat quiet.

:: 24:09:23

Unknown

You know what the funny thing is like at this time where there was saying like messaging, our friends of our friends and say, do these guys know what's going on? Well, I didn't know really know what to say because I'm like, I still were watching these. And then they blocked us. And like, I didn't even get a chance to reply and I didn't know how to contact them, but they sent a big, long message that night and then blocked me, blocked it.

:: 24:29:15

Unknown

And this is another thing. Like if they were sincere, like it's just crazy for me. Like, this is pure jealousy. It's pure insecurity, which they do, which I said on their socials that it clearly wasn't. And then and then the worst thing about this, I'll tell you, I'll tell you this. Right. The what the what exactly the worst thing about this is whether or not they're jealous or not.

:: 24:48:07

Unknown

All they care about the work or the people, or if I was doing something wrong or thought too fast, they could have reached out and said, hey boy, I know you look up to us, blah blah. I know one of them sent me like this big long message and then, block. I try to respond to say like, hey.

:: 25:03:13

Unknown

And literally one of the things is I can always stop doing breathwork until I'm qualified. Or can you give me advice? I'll do this game totally different. I'll go back to smaller events like I was. I was always like, I wasn't like fighting back. and then, but then I got blocked and there was no compensation. They contacted my school.

:: 25:20:16

Unknown

My school reached out to me, why are you doing these events? Blah, blah. My, that's the principal of the school. I felt like this little boy again was fucking yelling and yelling at me. Who do you think you are, this and that? I'm, The funny thing is, just like in the messages, which I still have said, you know, they're not qualified.

:: 25:38:03

Unknown

All this kind of stuff, you know, that I've never done. And he's like. And he's like, what what what, trauma qualifications do you have a Michael? What? Trauma? What what what are we supposed to have or do them like, what do you want me to do? Or do the like? I was, like, floating to people. And you're coming in like, boy, you stand the fuck up and be the fucking man that you are, like in the black you out or those sort of people.

:: 25:57:23

Unknown

You would be fucking punching these people out or telling this guy, and in this world I'm like floating because I'm like, okay, this world is not like that. We don't do violence, we don't do anger. We we do love and communication. So I'm trying to do that, and I'm getting hammered by people I looked up to. I was getting smashed by the the school, the director of this company that you were told to go to by them.

:: 26:21:02

Unknown

And they all just you the. Yeah. Who then blasted on social media saying that you had no education and all that stuff, but then you went to your school and complained and I'm like, I don't. I don't know what I, I don't know what people wanted from me at this time. Like I was just like, you know, I've done things in my life and I haven't always got it right, and I've made mistakes and I'm a fucking human being, but I'm like.

:: 26:46:11

Unknown

I'm like. I'm just shattered. Like so shattered at this point. And then I'm like. Like what? Where do I fucking go from here? Right? Like, you know, and then I go, let's just talk about it for a second. So when you were getting slammed by your school and so I was listening outside and water comes out and shells themselves.

:: 27:07:07

Unknown

Oh, man. I was like, he's getting slammed from all over social media. And then and then all my friends, let me just tell you at this point, all my friends that didn't understand and breathwork had fucked me off as well. At this point. They're like, they're like, this year I've gone weird, like I'm fucking doing this breathwork thing.

:: 27:24:15

Unknown

So I've lost all those friends. Yeah, I jumped the fence. Then all these people. Yeah, all these people turned on me. My school that I reached out and paid $10,000 to me, turned that back on me. I was at this point, can I just say, at this point I was actually flying my mentors around. So we had mentors in this group.

:: 27:44:09

Unknown

I was paying for their flights, flying them around to help me do the right thing. Just like, again, mentors from his from my school that I paid money for to go to his mentor facilitated and in front of me. So so I'm I'm doing like, you know, for this school. That's right. And so I'm doing no one had a fucking backbone I could not believe as your partner sitting there, the mentor didn't stand up and say, hey, you know, like I was there.

:: 28:14:24

Unknown

I was helping everyone turn their back on me, every single person. And then my my friends that I thought were my friends that were friends with these other people as well. They started to share shit and slander me as well. And then there was all these things going around that weren't true about me. I'm not going to get into them because they weren't true.

:: 28:31:13

Unknown

And like messages that sharing messages from people in boxing, him saying, hey, he's a real bad guy, hangs out with black. He's he he's violent, he's this and that. And I'm like, well, what does this have to do with me? Film breathwork and stuff. So like, there was some and that was some other shit shit. There's like people telling me about that of them on drugs.

:: 28:50:18

Unknown

Yeah. And I'm not. And I'm like, you know, it's like all this shit is happening and I'm like, I feel like I let my family down myself down, all my people down. And there was a lot of people sticking up for us. I would say that, and I appreciate you people. And now I'll tell you, I tell you who I am now, if you when we go through shit and then people who have, you know, turn their back on us in those times, there's been a lot of people that see where we're on now and they're like, hey, how are you guys?

:: 29:17:02

Unknown

No no no no no no no. You can fucking suck. And I'm fucking like, shut the fuck a bag of dicks. I'm like, yeah, I know. And I'm like, you know what? The people that it's the people that stood by me, my friends. I expect my friends to stand by me. But people in the breathwork industry or whatever, the fucking industry is, turned their back.

:: 29:40:20

Unknown

Yep, yep. And for me, I what I thought was a world that wasn't even model to be in. Yeah. My partner and to have my name go through my And I'll say this once again, I took a lot of I made mistakes through that. I've made mistakes. I've hurt people. I've done things I will learning and I'm not perfect, but I am finally feel like I'm getting it right.

:: 30:06:22

Unknown

And I'm like, you know, this is like, crazy. Because like I said, I jumped this fence and then like, then I didn't know where I belonged. I couldn't go back there. I didn't know where to go, but it helped me find out who I started being myself. So when I stood on stage, I was like, well, we're going to do this fuck you exercise.

:: 30:26:10

Unknown

I put on AC, DC thunderstruck, turn in and and then and then and I was, I want you to stand up tall and, this is to anyone who's ever heard you, anyone who's disrespected you. Anything that I went through right for you in your life, fuck you. And I've got, like, 100 people. This is a breathwork event saying, fuck you.

:: 30:43:04

Unknown

I'm powerful. Fuck you. I'm brave. People are crying. People are fucking like, you know, fuck you. I'm amazing. Fuck you. I'm kick ass like in event of all the things that we needed when we were going through our stuff. And that is. Yeah, good at exactly every single thing that we have created, developed, bought into our life is time.

:: 31:05:10

Unknown

And and you know what I with as as I, I, I don't call myself a breath worker. I fucking hate it never has because of all that trauma. And I don't want to be involved with anyone in that world. And that's why we went more into business. So we're more like into us. Well, we want into us. We work for, we want to we want to help other people.

:: 31:24:06

Unknown

Whether it's breath work is trying to get up, whether it's hairdressers, whether it's mechanics, construction workers, investment realtors. I just want to help other people win. I want to see other people win. That's my fucking goal. Yes. And I love that you I just we use breathwork to. For power. Yeah. But as a tool to label people and it should be in every fucking aspect.

:: 31:47:08

Unknown

Like I said, like he said, when we have like an office and we have a bunch of workers, we have our online virtual team that we're helping the back end. We did breathwork with them the other morning. That's manifest. I wake, I said, I wake up for success, let's bring in creativity. we do breathwork ourselves. We do a breathwork with how to get to sleep.

:: 32:04:21

Unknown

It's a fucking tool, okay? And I don't consider myself a breathwork. I don't like being called a breathwork coach or a healer or anything like that. I'm just here to transmit energy and help the world become more successful and more happy with my. And one thing I'd say that we don't do that no one does is we make people dance.

:: 32:22:16

Unknown

The Wiggles, as you said before. And I want to explain that. So we, we we've done events now around Australia, a few world tours, fucking a lot, for the last nearly three years. Yep. And we constantly every single event we do, we completely change it. We come in, but when we went to Melbourne, to Sydney two weeks later, we completely rewritten the we had we got out of my cookies.

:: 32:45:17

Unknown

Now I've got like a fucking hand packs of people that join an online program like it's amazing, but the structure is what I'm talking about, how different the structure is now I do freedom of movement. It's really cool. I do it before the break through breathwork at the end of the day, and what I was finding was when we do freedom movement, we put up a song like DMX or, you know, fucking Let's Dance like Lady Gaga.

:: 33:08:24

Unknown

Something, something modern, right? And we get the horror movie, people are laughing people. And then the room energy changes when everyone goes to get food. After that, people are laughing, talking marvel. And I'm like, that needs to be done at the start. So we got that. My stupidest, hottest, craziest fucking exercise song, which was The Wiggles. We bring it back to each other, everyone on their feet.

:: 33:29:09

Unknown

We're going to do an icebreaker. I do this right. Who here in the room is nervous and anxious? Whole room. Not one person. Everyone, right? Even us. We're feeling a bit anxious every time we do an event. Nervous yet? Hands are in the air. All right, everyone on the icebreaker, the Wiggles. Hot potato, hot potato, hot potato, the whole fucking room.

:: 33:50:06

Unknown

There we go. And I'd say to people, if you're not moving, I'll bring you up on stage. So you know, everyone's movement, everyone's laughing, everyone's like, this is ridiculous. It's silly. All right, take a few deep breaths. Get all that energy out. Now sit down. Hurry. You're still anxious? Not a fucking hand in the room. It works. It's a great icebreaker.

:: 34:06:21

Unknown

User. Use it for your business events. Use it for speaking gigs. Anything. And it gives you that sense of calmness and connecting with the group as well. Yeah, because we do it as well. Mashed banana, banana and then we're over. Like you feel the whole tension in the room leaves and then you feel ready to continue on that day.

:: 34:23:15

Unknown

And I like I said to our business coaches, use ten breaths in between each hour of speaking online or in events or anything because it fucking works. So we've got all these things, the things that we do now, and we've moved into more of who we are because of those experiences. I don't know, we just said this right now.

:: 34:39:10

Unknown

We don't regret what happened. I don't hate either way. So I've got my lawyer on speed dial because we if, if any, if we've got some of the best lawyers in, of people for defamation or anything. So if anyone ever says anything online or like, you know, through text message or anything like that, we just get our lawyers to sort it out now.

:: 35:01:08

Unknown

So that's been a lesson for us. We don't hit back. We don't try and kill them with kindness. We don't try and threaten them. You guys look silly because your one's going out. This, psychological projection. Yeah. Psychological projection may know that because, like, yeah, especially around trauma as well. You know what? And the crazy thing is that these people actually really traumatically hurt you.

:: 35:23:13

Unknown

And it did. And that and I don't know if they know that. And that was a year, a year of hearing my mental health my trust I trust issues. I still have trust issues now. In the hospital multiple times you had vertigo, dizziness, couldn't get out of bed and. Yeah. And the saddest thing is, I said I had to watch my partner go downhill.

:: 35:48:15

Unknown

Yeah, that is the reason why I in business unit done your breathwork training took over. And that's why business is what it is now. And so I have to thank those people because we would not be who we are as we are right now if it hadn't have been for that, because I had to step up and I walked into this and I had to go and learn things that I didn't know before, and I want to be kind of qualified.

:: 36:15:17

Unknown

And then I took this instruction. I thank them and how, how much did our business and events and all of you put systems and I had all these followers, do you know how to monetize them? I had all this stuff and you bring all the smart stuff. And this is why I want everyone to know shitty things happen to great people all the time.

:: 36:34:02

Unknown

Things having a great people and good things having shitty people to you. That's exactly what you do with that is up to you. Comedy always come back. I'm always said you're not going to get me speaking up about this. I don't need you to know our side of the story. I didn't need that. No, but I always knew that karma would have its thing.

:: 36:52:21

Unknown

And I also know it's not even karma. It's just energy. Good and bad. Yeah, I will always have my back and and lessons that ever happened for us. Because like I said, we are the more successful versions of ourselves now. And help your bank account and how to assist you and maybe go and get business coaches. I did something I spent last year alone, over $60,000 on self-development and courses and therapy.

:: 37:20:04

Unknown

Yeah, breakthrough breathwork, business coaches, books, books and, yeah, I just want you guys to know that for us personally, if you see anything that you love, that we do use it. Yeah. Or reach out. We will help you if you have if you're if you're doing an event and you want help, we'll help you with the event.

:: 37:43:08

Unknown

But we want you to use our stuff. And if you think it's like resonates with you and that you can, help people because the end of the day, my main mission in life, and I'll say over and over again, is to see the world emotionally kind of free. And if I'm helping you do that, then my job here is that's right, helping human beings.

:: 38:02:04

Unknown

So please, please, please reach out. Yeah, we'll share your stuff. We fucking love networking. Love collaborating. It's our favorite thing. What we're about. There's no competition with us. We don't see anyone is. Everyone's is different. There is also a table at the top for ourselves. And we want to be a part of that for you. That's right. And I just want to end on that.

:: 38:24:02

Unknown

I have no hate or most for anyone. I still think all the people that have called us out do great things, and they're doing great things, and they bring they they're very knowledgeable and they bring stuff to the table. You know, I would I would have out of love to have sat down and had an amicable, you know, conversation about all this.

:: 38:42:17

Unknown

It never happened. was it needed does it have any needed? I don't know, probably not. But, you know, we are we are who we are and they are who they are. And anyone who decides to follow them will ask, like, we don't give a fuck. We just want everyone to win. And and that's it. That's it. And we just want everyone to win.

:: 39:02:03

Unknown

So what an episode that was cool to talk about that finally feels actually really good. I so I did my own healing through that. Got a bit emotional there. But yeah I just I just and on what Kirstie said, I really loved what you added to the end and, you know, I hope a lot of people feel like, you know, when you're getting slanted by like other dress hairdressers or other foodie people or science going in your life, man, it happens.

:: 39:26:02

Unknown

And just take a deep breath and just continue on your journey and be yourself. Yeah, because it would have been very easy, especially at that time. Well, if I have, yeah, I probably would have. Yeah, I would have folded them just and I wanted to, I wanted to just do what everyone wanted me to want me to do.

:: 39:41:23

Unknown

I wanted to fold and be like, okay, this is what you have to do in this world. But, you know, and parts of me, I just on that, of course. But parts of me went like, well, I just want to go back to the world I used to live in because, like, people accept you for just who you are.

:: 39:56:06

Unknown

And I've been a piece of shit and a fucking, running around nature often. So you just you just drink and you party and you fucking run amok and that's it. But there's there's issues in that. Well, do like, let me tell you, it's not all fucking gravy. And that's that's the key thing, right? Doesn't matter which road you choose to go in, there's going to be issues that go in the path that's directed for you.

:: 40:18:16

Unknown

And don't do what I did and try and follow the other people's path. Be inspired by everyone and create your own path. And I found that in a book I read, don't try and follow the paths of other people that have got it right. Pave your own and learn your own lessons. Yeah, create your own path for. Yeah.

:: 40:34:18

Unknown

And and don't give up. Because you know what? You, the more successful you get in life, the more, that can come and pull you down and you get love as well, but you've got to be stronger than that. And I was saying it in your resilience building the mindset I talk about all the time. And we were heavily in our program where it says 90% of what we do is working on our mindset to the I would never get these days, because if you don't understand that you cannot control that.

:: 41:00:17

Unknown

You can't get the fuck out of your head and out of your emotions. I try and I try. Relationship will fail. But if you can control that mindset, if you can make it like if you can sit in confidence and clarity, belief and understanding exactly what's going on. So you need to take back control. I try to control anything you like and you will be successful and you've got to have compassion to for people like, I just want to say this, we found that not long ago, that now going through the people that slandered us and, and and said some, some they went they'll going through some hard shit.

:: 41:32:15

Unknown

We found out some very hard shit and and I'm not going to go into that because that's their business. But they went through something really, really hard around that time. And you know, and now I look back and I felt like, sorry. And I was like, fuck. Like they it makes me emotional because I'm like, dad, they're going through their pain as well, and we all are.

:: 41:52:11

Unknown

And that's what I mean when someone says something or hurt you, like, if we can just be compassionate back and be like, well, what are they going through? You know, people don't want to hurt people and people are just trying to get through their life. And they've probably they've been through their trauma and their stuff. So that's all I wanted to say.

:: 42:07:22

Unknown

And but also stand your fucking ground, you know what I mean? Don't let people treat you like shit and go do whatever the fuck you want. So it's saying that I'm compassionate, but also fucking stand on your stand on your own two feet and don't fold. Yeah, I folded, I did, I folded my cards and I and I wanted to be accepted.

:: 42:25:05

Unknown

Fuck that. Like but I'm also this stronger person now. And if you know, I'm like, now I'm like, I see comments and stuff and I'm like, fuck you on me and go be your fucking self. Like you said the other day, that person sometimes goes, oh, do you have to swear so much? Yeah. Fucking do. if you don't like me, hit the fucking book button, you fucking idiot.

:: 42:44:18

Unknown

That's the thing. Like, you know, you stand your fucking ground. Know who? You know who you are. Know what you stand for there? It's going to be. Who are they going to want to? We are totally different people that have been through totally different life experience wanted to dictate your fucking life. But you, your career choices, the people you choose to hang around with but fucking do get out of your own way.

:: 43:06:22

Unknown

Get the fuck out of your own way. Awesome. Love. Thanks for joining us on another podcast. This is probably one of the most ones we've spoken about for a long time. I'm really glad we got to all of that. So if you want to join us, come and join our We Breathe Success program where we will get you success and happy and fucking killing it at life, no matter what that looks like for you.

:: 43:29:19

Unknown

It's a one size fits all. So thank you again for another episode of Spill the Tea with Bo and Kirstie. That's right, not Kirstie and. Let's go have a beautiful week.