#6 BELIEVE IN YOUR BREATH

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Unknown

What is up crew? And welcome to another episode of Spill the Tea with Beau and Kirsty. That's Beau and Kirsty, not Kirsty and Beau, definitely Kirsty and Beau. This is -- Let’s ask the audience. Let’s ask the audience. Kirsty. It's Beau and Kirsty. Let us know what you guys think. But, this is episode four, I believe, and this is called believe in Your breath.

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Unknown

Let's go. Kirstie. All right. Bozo, how the hell did believing your breath even come about? Let's start from the beginning. Well, this is a story, guys, so buckle up. Your headphones in. Get ready, get ready. So believe in your breasts. Question I get a lot. How do I get in a breath work? Had I start this business? How did we end up where we are today?

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Unknown

Living in Bali, traveling the world with our work. We got a renowned online program. Well, obviously we were together and I was having issues with my mental health and with my triggers and with my past and I was like, alright, I'll just go to a psychologist, right? Because they fix you and that'll deal with all my issues.

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Unknown

And, you know, it's taking accountability that I need some help, which is the first step. We all know that. And, I went there and I basically over and trauma done dumped for about an hour. And then I left and I was like okay cool. And she didn't say anything back. And I was like a lot of, yeah, well, I started feeling like accomplished that.

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Unknown

I'd done like therapy. I mean, going out with ADHD diagnosed it. I was always in psychs offices and stuff, but that was different. I was there with my mom and it wasn't like it was about me or my personal life was just about my behavior. So that was different. But to sit down in front of like a psych psychologist and explain, like, what's going on with me and my, you know, my ex and my anger and my mental health, like, personally and all the stuff that I've been going through.

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Unknown

Yeah, it felt different. And, they sent me an email the next day saying, hey, we're not the right fit. You'll have to find someone else. And I laughed that off because that was my coping mechanism. How's too much for the, too much for the psychologist? She couldn't handle me. Yeah. And, you know, it took a few years and a lot of work on myself to realize that that actually fucking hurt.

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Unknown

Well, I actually said to you, and we were. We were somewhere. We were away on holiday somewhere. So, I mean, we got the email, Oh, yeah. We were like, in Margaret River. Yeah, we were somewhere. And I was like, oh, you got the email? Yeah. That's right. This is hilarious. Like, I just got dumped and I was like, yeah, I dumped you.

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Unknown

That's really not okay, because I might if I wasn't here right now. Imagine if you were actually that was like you were suicidal. That was your last, last straw. And you tried and you reached out and then you got dumped, like so. You laughed as your normal coping mechanism, what you do and all of your life and everyone does.

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Unknown

Everyone laughs when it's awkward or when it's weird or at home. Some people, you know that. And that is your card. Yeah. And you've always been like the classic class clown type person, you know? So I always try to turn something into funny when we're having a serious conversation. I was like, oh, and this. Yeah, that's like my diversion to try and get out of this.

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Unknown

Like, okay, I don't want to take this a serious feeling about a hot water type. Yeah, I don't know. I let's laugh it off and go into something else. Yeah. So yeah. You know, and you're right, like, you know, thinking about that later on, I was like, well, what if someone was suicidal and that was that, like, I'm going to finally reach out and get some help.

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Unknown

And then they got dumped and by the one person where we are, we are born and programed to believe that as a doctor, it's a person who's done, you know, a big qualification that is going to help us. And then if we want to get dumped and thrown off by those type of people, then how the fuck could possibly help us then?

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Unknown

And this is exactly why I and I get a little bit emotional talking about this and goosebumps as well. But this is why it's so important to raise your kids with self-esteem, right? Yeah. Because, you know, as parents like you going to send your kids out into this bad world and we bubble up our kids and we can't always protect them.

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Unknown

And in situations like that, when they turn to drugs and alcohol or, you know, there's bullying at school and this shit on social media, and they can be led in all these different ways. I think it's a really important, important, it's it's important to know how to boost a child's confidence and give them those so key tools of like, you know, taking a breath and walking away or knowing their worth or not letting the external, you know, bait get beat them down.

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Unknown

So navigate those emotions exactly. Navigate and regulate their emotions and nervous system. Because when when you, you know, it doesn't matter what sort of parenting you do, when you send your kids out into the world, they're going to turn to what they know. And if they don't know what they know, they're going to think that's it. You just hope that you've built a strong enough foundation for them to come back, then to come back to, you know, and that's, you know, as a mom, like, I've got a 19 year old, a 14 year old and a three year old, you know, I definitely parented very different with my 19 year old to, you know,

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Unknown

a you are a different person, very different person. You know, like, I was growing up with a child, you know, and so but I, you know, I have always taught my kids like, you know, just to break them out of a tantrum, I'll be like, okay, small for 30s. Yeah. And they were like, mom, like, this is ridiculous size.

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Unknown

I was like, just smile and like, you know, my kids just like, you know, it's impossible to say angry, you know? So I've been learning and I've been drawing this stuff for many, many years, like, you know, like I say, Parsons 19 now. So you're absolutely right. And that's why, you know, breathwork is such a such a paramount tool.

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Unknown

And I truly believe that every single person should experience and use breathwork is a way for kids and adults to regulate and release. That's exactly right. And for me, like, my tool was medication. Yes. I didn't have anything, I was right, I was like, you're misbehaving, you have to take meds. Like there was no tools or no knowledge.

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Unknown

It was like guidance. It was just I was a naughty kid. I was out of control taking meds. That's what is going to fix you. There was no, like, internal work. Yeah. So, All right, so you got the you got the rejection. Yeah. And then I and then I was like, all right, whatever. And then I still knew I kind of like thrown under the rug for a bit as you do.

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Unknown

You feel a bit better. You know, your relationships. Not too bad. See this. Well, I might if you think. Yeah, I might if I made the effort. So I mean I went on one then I got canceled. So you know like and I don't say it also puts a bad taste in your mouth like I'm. No I hate it.

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Unknown

Bag out psychology at all. Everyone does it differently and whatever. And I also made millions of different therapists. Just like it's really different. Breathwork is exactly right. You might have a great experience with us, and you might not have a great exposure to someone else, or vice versa, but not for everyone and everyone's. And they're fun to.

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Unknown

And that's why I like, you know, we're constant like, hey, check out and see a variety of different modalities and people because we all facilitate differently. We all have our beautiful gifts and that and that goes down in personality too, right? Like when you put yourself out there in social media, ten people are going to love you and ten people are going to hate you.

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Unknown

Yeah, like we swear and we're we're there and that's okay. And then some people love that and feel connected and some feel like that's fucking disgusting, you know? And you can't win a moose. You might as well just be yourself. Be authentic. That where do you hate. Right. Yeah. So yeah. And for me I'm like, all right, whatever.

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Unknown

And it's a bit off putting. Right? Why would I go back and sit back in a room and talk to someone about some deep shit that I've never even told my mates about when I was treated like that? So it closed the door for me as well. But where doors closed, other was open and, you know, months went by and we met some other friends and they were doing breathwork with some, like, people.

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Unknown

Another time we never heard of breathwork. Oh, no, I was out of it, didn't know what it was, and I still didn't. I followed, some people through my and I was good friends and like these people who do, breathwork celebrities and stuff. And I was like, that's pretty cool. And, there weren't normal breathwork is, you know, they had tattoos and stuff that shows up, resonate with their and not too special not to woo.

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Unknown

Yeah. Not too crazy. Like, you know, it was like you felt aligned. Yeah, exactly. And that's exactly what we talk about, right. Because like, the modern person who sits at a computer desk or loves to have a beer or, you know, lives a modern sort of lifestyle, they look at some people who do breathwork and they. Yeah, that's to me that's like candles and crystals and, and I'm, I'm into some of that stuff, but like, you know, they there's a level where it's like, you know, people are going to go, this is too weird.

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Unknown

Yeah. And it is confronting like, it is. It is. And the is even though that they have an interest in breath. Right. And it's all some people look at us and go, oh, what the fuck are these weirdos talking as weird? Like, you know, it's I like, wow. But I think what's cool is now you've got all these people like Joe Rogan and Andrew Human and all these sort of like people.

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Unknown

Robbins, Gary Breck, Tony Robbins, I think even Gary Vee would have talked about breathwork at some point. And the science backing it is what's super important. So like, you can sit there and talk about the moon's an energy and that all you want, but people want proof. Yeah. People want to see what's happening to the blood and the chemicals in the body and the brain.

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Unknown

Chemistry and, frequency in the brain levels changing on graphs and charts and blood samples. So a lot of that is happening. So for me, that was like I wasn't into all that yet, but I was just like, all right, oh, go do it. They these guys are super cool. Looked up to him, follow them religiously and did one of their breathwork practices online.

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Unknown

I felt fucking amazing. And that's the thing. Breathwork is a feeling, and I truly believe if every single person does breath registries doing it in it, you 100%, no matter what, will feel different. You you feel calmer, you know, and you know, like, you know, if you're having a big day, like, that's why you feel a little bit calmer for a second.

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Unknown

Yeah. And and the thing is, with breathwork, it's you get instant relief. It's like taking a Valium or it's like having a drink of being the one in our body. Yeah. And it's like automatic. And then also, once you know the science behind it, you kind of know when you're taking those deep breaths, you're regenerating a cells, detoxifying in the body, boosting your immune system like circulating your blood there things that you don't actually feel happening.

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Unknown

But when you pray then you know. Yeah. So I went along to workshop was absolutely crazy. Life changing. As I said when I went there to walked in there. And I think you actually booked it. You actually, I think you were like, just go and do it, you know, otherwise I was probably going to hold off and not go, which is what people do with our events.

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Unknown

They're like, oh, I was going to come. And then it got closer and then I was busy. Oh, there's no tickets left. So you you thought a little bit guilty because we just had hobby. Yeah. You know, like fuck, like, you know, you were working away at the mines as well. So I was home. Yeah. Taking a weekend away from you guys like, you know, and if anyone listening, how many people feel, especially parents feel guilty for spending money on themselves to better themselves and time away from their family.

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Unknown

And isn't it fucking crazy? I hear it all the time because we know that you need to fill your fucking cup up first before you can overflow. If you if you go out there and do a lot of fucking work on yourself, then your kids are going to get a better version of, you know this, we know this, especially with their own stuff.

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Unknown

Yeah. Let's go back to the you walked in. So I walked in and not knowing to what to expect, not really knowing what to expect. And just on this like I grew up with crystals and shit like my auntie. Always. She was real spiritual. She always had crystal. She did Reiki on me as a kid, which I loved.

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Unknown

Go to Crystal every time you did it. You know, so. And I used to meditate as well as a kid. So you dabbled a little bit. Yeah. So it wasn't. It wasn't, like, completely like foreign, but, it breathwork thing was, you know, you hear of breathwork, but I didn't really know anything. So going in there did like, breakthrough breathwork or breathwork journey or conscious connected breathwork or even hollow Tropic, a form of hollow tropic breathwork, which is basically, at the end of the day, you do like 45 minutes to an hour of conscious connected breathing, which is circuit related.

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Unknown

Breathing sounds in and out constantly, which I know now activates your sympathetic nervous system, brings all the tension energy out of your body caused from like stress or anxiety. You know, and it does things to the brain. It it switches off your, frontal cortex or your ego brain and gives you access to more of your unconscious mind.

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Unknown

So, you know, parts of the brain, like the limbic system and the amygdala. Amygdala is your watchtower that's constantly looking for threats. So it fires that. And then your limbic system is, memories and emotions and other parts of the brain that therefore, you know, everything that we suppress can come forward. So for people who see our videos of people like crying and screaming, that's exactly what's happening.

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Unknown

Crazy to thinking that you haven't taken a drive and you've done this with your own. Oh, you're releasing TMT Dimethyltryptamine naturally into the brain through the pineal gland. A little bit of a science new day or the third eye. Yeah. And, that supposed to give you, like, this effect of, like, you know, having a couple of beers or whatever, and then you can, like, go deeper and, you know, with flying the correct music and things like that and bodywork and stuff, like, I always do that when I do breathwork, I feel like taking, ecstasy, MDMA, not that I'm a big MDMA to take it, and I haven't taken many years because if

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Unknown

you know both high drugs, but it is like the the climb, like the first ten minutes is the hottest. Yeah. You know. Yeah, it's it's like, you know, you don't really know what's going on. And then boom all of a sudden, you know, like, whoa, this is fucking light. This is like, hit me. It's like a hit. You like, whoa, this fucking feels insane.

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Unknown

You know? So I reckon that I always sort to say like, breathwork is like a MDMA pill going out on the body. Well, when I did mushrooms at that time, I said it felt exactly like a really long breathwork journey. Crying, laughing, realizations, thinking about things that I wouldn't normally think about consciously on a day to day basis because you're, you know, you we use 90% of unconscious during the day and only 10%.

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Unknown

It's pretty scary to think that we are programed to a default setting to how we walk, what food we choose, the way we judge people, the decisions we're making all day conscious, unconsciously throughout the day is only mode consciously 10% like we're 10% real and 90% a robot, like it's fucking. That's why I say if you're consciously making 10% decisions throughout the day, make sure that good ones, because 90% of it's robotic and that's why you're going to do that.

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Unknown

And that's why you gotta to do the entire work. Because when you're triggered, because when you choose poor rather than rich, when you choose sad rather than happy, like you're, you're that's your internal choices. Guys are all fucking choices. That's right. And I've always said, you know, people think like, oh, are there any two, are there any one, are there any baby that I didn't know.

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Unknown

Like I had the most important years that those default settings are getting programed. The way you see the world, the way you feel about yourself is all within the first few years. And what makes you feel safe. And every you know, we turn to our parents and if they're drinking on drugs or alcohol or fighting or violence, their reactions like how they react to right situations.

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Unknown

So that's what I say to parents like the first two years, the way you treat that baby is the way they're going to be as a human being is. And I don't 100% that's it, you know. And all right, let's dive it back. This is to right ADHD people trying to do a podcast. Yeah I think it's so important.

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Unknown

Yeah. So so you jump in to the event all right. What happens. So jump into the event. Amazing experience left. What happened like no no no you're skipping parts. What. Why did you go to school. I went to that to forgive my ex. And fucking the hate for her. The hate for women. The hate for, you know, my victim.

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Unknown

I was a victim mindset, and I thought the world was against me, and I hated everybody else. I was like, oh, this projection, and I. I loved you, and I loved what we had, and I didn't want to fuck that up. So that was my drive to go there and just be like kind of religious or whatever. And like, oh.

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Unknown

And then it was like life changing. So I wrote down on this piece of paper that I forgive myself. I had nothing to do with my ex. It was internal. It was all that kind of powerful realization. Yeah. And I was like, that moment I walked out and I was like, everything is in my control. I'd use ADHD as a cop out for shit behavior my whole entire life.

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Unknown

Oh, well, I got ADHD and that's unconscious too. Like, I would just literally just do. And in my online program, literally yesterday, we had a fucking amazing session with everyone that showed up and we were talking about how people are like, oh, I'm this, or I'm this label on that. And I'm like, yeah, but by you saying that out loud, your unconscious brain is constantly making decisions based on your thoughts that you believe that that's what you are.

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Unknown

Your language is creating your future. Exactly. And your thought system is that that's who you are, and that's how you should act. That's like when someone comes to me with anxiety, depression, they're like, I have anxiety. And my you don't have that. No, yes I do. I'm prescribed, I know. And then they get angry. They get angry like they're like, right, I haven't I haven't I say hi I'm not I'm not calling a lie.

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Unknown

I'm not saying you have it. Yeah. I'm not saying that you don't experience those symptoms. They're real. Yeah, but you don't have it. You don't own that symptom. You don't own anxiety. Anxiety is just a whole bunch of systematic symptoms that happen to you because of problematic, you know, actions that happen to you or, you know, it's happening internally, whether it's your diet, creating it, or you external or childhood trauma, things that you haven't processed or you haven't suppressed emotions like stress, you know, and it's just it's it baffles me that, you know, when we say like, you know, you don't have depression, you know, like, well, you know, don't you?

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Unknown

You can have it if you want it. Yeah. And I'm like, and people get angry and I'm like, I can't get defensive. Like, why do you want to hold on to that? Is that because they are so used to using that as a corporate excuse? Because I used to have depression. It's victim mentality 100%. I'd say I'm a victim.

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Unknown

I'm a victim. And I'm, I'm, I'm suffering because I have this to my needs in, you know, and from personal experience, when I was younger, when I was diagnosed with depression from a very young age, my family had to walk on eggshells on me like I do. I say that because Chrissy has depression and I was out. That's a form of narcissism 100%, you know, and it isn't a crazy like, obviously like I was depressed, but I had I had again, circumstances that were going on cause that created the depression.

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Unknown

So, you know, and that's why they say things like, you know, before you diagnose the other depression, check your environment. And it's so fucking true because, you know, even us moving from Australia into Bali, how much different do we feel? Our anxiety is pretty much non-existent. And I just do stress and you got to deal with that. Stress is not anxiety.

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Unknown

And when I lived in Australia, I felt constantly anxious and I truly believe it's the environment we're in, the fast paced, the urgency, the the rudeness and the energy like I truly believe and I say this to everyone, Bali is a feeling. Yeah, it's not a place. It's a feeling. Yeah. And everything's blessed here. You wake up in the morning.

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Unknown

Everyone's blessing. The roads that you walk on. Like everywhere you go. Are these blessings. So yeah, the energy is different. And that's right. But you know, going back I just want to say to some people are listening. Yes, there are some sort of things that can be passed down genetically, you know, mental health, chemical attacks and stuff like that.

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Unknown

And I get it. I'm not quite depression. I'm not saying you're going to you have to move to Bali and clear your fucking anxiety and stuff it. That might help. Of course. It's going to help. Especially if you're surrounded by toxic people, you know, your career. Too much pressure and you've got childhood shin suppressed stuff you've never worked on.

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Unknown

But, you know, I just want to say on that because it's really important that people do turn to us for mental health is that, you know, when somebody when you sit in a room with a person in a white coat and, glasses on and, and certificates on the wall, and you put them up on that pedestal and they turn to you and say, hey, you have this disorder.

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Unknown

You have unfortunately, you have depression disorder. It's not they don't hate you and go, hey, at the moment you have the symptoms of depression, but we can move through them. They don't give you that hope and they don't even do this. What's going on in your life exactly what's going life. What what what what are you doing? What kind of childhood did.

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Unknown

Yes. Yeah. And what what what's been going on in the last 12 months? Hundred percent. What food are you putting into? Yes. What diet? He's asking these questions and I'm exercising personal experience. You know, back when Harvey was born, I went to the doctor. Didn't ask me anything that was going on. I just had a fucking baby. I'd given up my ten year of your career.

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Unknown

I had to rely on a man. And he never asked me any of these questions. Was we ever had. I had real life family issues going on at the time, and his thing was, how do you want to feel like this? You feel like this at the moment. You want to change that? Here's the medication. And it baffled me because I was in a point where I had to type this, so I'm going to fucking in my life.

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Unknown

I was in a really bad place, felt guilty around that in the first place because I had everything I wanted. Nobody asked me that question. I just had a baby in my third child, you know, like no one else has questions. And that is the issue right now. No one's sitting there going, hey, are you happy? What's going on with you?

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Unknown

No, no. And no one asked the questions. Like I say, you see a man flip out, yeah, be really angry and everyone knows what a piece of shit. Shit. Hey, bro. Like, what's going on, man? Like, how are you now? Usually break down 100%. They're like, you know, fucking. And then you go deeper. What happened with you and your dad was with you as a child, like there's some sort of abuse or violence or something at the end of the day, every single person I'll say has over and over again wants to be loved, wants to be connected.

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Unknown

He's actually heard, sane and understood. And I don't care how tough you are, we're human beings. Every where, pack animals primarily out and worked with the toughest type of men. And when they get into our room and they break down like a little boy crying that just wanted to be held by their mum. Yeah. How many people do we get that way?

:: 21:29:07

Unknown

And it makes you go back to like, oh, that's weak or you want your mummy, blah blah. And I'm like, we're human beings, primal love. We're pack animals, and we turn to our sources of creation and love, which is our parents. Yeah. For, you know, create reassuring reassurance, safety. Oh, yes. You know, emotional regulation, you know, when Harvey hits and he's like, mama, you know, because the mum and then you give him a hug and telling the brain everything's okay and give him a kiss.

:: 21:59:19

Unknown

Like, you know, how how does, like, a little elbow? And he'd be like, kiss. And then I give him a kiss. You know, mum's kisses always make things better, you know? So that's what life's all about. All right. Oh, so you've done. I just want to say, on the mental health thing, because you went on a tangent. On a tangent, on the tangent is that when someone comes to me suicidal or mental health crazy, you know, on drugs and alcohol in a really fucking bad place, wanting to end their life, fucking can't leave their house like the worst of the worst sort of stuff.

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Unknown

But you know, obviously have to look at like, you need to go see a professional or a doctor, get some testing. And a lot of my clients believe it or not, it's been thyroid. Yes. Thyroid has been off. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And we we talk about that in our class yesterday, someone was like experiencing some things.

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Unknown

They got glandular fever a couple of times and someone else in the group because we did Q&A Wednesdays now. And someone in the group said check your thyroid. Oh my god. And then like they're talking and they're like on the same things and they're like, yeah, up and down, weight gain, blah, blah, blah, thyroid. And I'm like, you know, it's not always that simple, but you can't give up.

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Unknown

One of the people in our group yesterday had that thought. I checked 14 times before they actually because a doctor doesn't check levels enough to go all you need medication or you need to change something. So that's what I would just want to say as well. Like, you know, when you've got mental health shit going on, sometimes it's not your externally, it's your internal.

:: 23:21:00

Unknown

What are you putting into your body. And some levels can be at 100%. Gary Bracket talks about it all the time and being deficient of. So we had another one in our in our program. I'm not going to say your name, but she actually has been on anxiety medication for 3 or 4 years and then finally got the diagnosis that she had, she had ADHD.

:: 23:40:05

Unknown

It's a wrongly medicated cough. Yes. And how many people out there are wrongly medicated or put on medication? Let's see how this affects you. And I always say when there's this broad spectrum of ADHD, depression, anxiety, PTSD, right? When you when you put them all on the table, they all connect in a way. And those symptoms usually all come down to 1 or 2 things like trauma or, you know, your environment or stress or what you're putting into your body.

:: 24:07:20

Unknown

It's usually an act. You went, we're not born with it. We're born with a nervous system to react in fight or flight to help us, but then it so sabotages us later because we're not processing correctly, we're not eating correctly. There's so many things we could talk about. The modern world is fucking us up, basically. But also like, you know, we, we're humans having human experiences.

:: 24:26:18

Unknown

That's right. And nobody has taught us ever how to process. What's the nervous system? The first thing is you get to in school is, hey, this, you know, system. This is how your blood works. This is, how your body works. It's how you parts your brain. Well, the only part of, like, you know, our body stuff I learned in school was penises and vaginas at six, eight.

:: 24:45:14

Unknown

I'm not joking. Like, I don't remember you never knowing anything about, you know, and even in young kids, you know, when when they're crying out, you say, hey, that's your nervous system. It's, it's trying to protect you right now. That's why you got these big emotions. Let them process. Let them feel like simple fucking shit like that.

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Unknown

And kids understand 100%. And you know what? Having Harvey, like, obviously, I've got my I've got three kids, my two older ones. And, you know, now I'm in this line of work, and I really watch Harvey when he, when he has a tantrum and you watch and cry, kick and scream, process and then laugh ten minutes later. And also because he's moved through that emotion, he's moved.

:: 25:22:11

Unknown

And you see it in a breath picture. You see laughing, crying, anger. And then you see people laughing for the breathwork journey. And then I show you the emotion. And it's crazy because it's taken me to have Harvey to really, you know, double in and and have a look what is actually happening and, and actually physically see the nervous system doing its thing.

:: 25:40:21

Unknown

Yeah. And I'm just like, fuck me. If we could just take what the kids are doing with a naturally born to do, and we just kept adults like, I don't spend the short attention, what if I processing and then, didn't watch animals. Right. That's I always say yeah and I don't. Yeah. And then the, the the gazelle after a stressful encounter with a predator, I will go and shake and deep breathe and then go back to instantly mating and eating and fucking living a normal life where human beings go through like a stressful experience, just completely suppress it all.

:: 26:12:09

Unknown

Go to drugs and alcohol to nominal. Yeah. Or pleasure seeking, like sex, supplying your food, a pleasure, eating all that sort of stuff. Ignoring all the processing. And then it gets stuck in the body like vessel. Yeah. And then people will go up and down, go good for a little bit. Bang. So I come back to back to normal, back to the same cycle.

:: 26:31:19

Unknown

We go on cycles all the time table like, no, I'm good for a little bit. Then I go back because you go back to your default setting because it's stuck, and then everyone gets so upset about the word triggered, like, oh, my fucking triggering is great. I mean, you know what? You've got work to do on you don't know what you don't know.

:: 26:47:02

Unknown

And the thing is, when people get triggered, they go, okay, I'm not going to go in that direction anymore. You need to explore that obviously safely. But like a science triggering a you need to be like, why? And exploring your self-awareness on a life. Surely you don't want to feel that you come to these doors of trigger. Then you just stay in one room.

:: 27:03:11

Unknown

So you need a you need to be able to move through those traits. And most of times, once we've gone through the door, that little scary, unfamiliar door, we go, oh my God, it wasn't that bad. And no, it wasn't. And we have to let the body feel that uncomfortable stuff. So just back to that, right? Shit, I know, but just back to the people that reach out to me anxious, depressed, suicidal.

:: 27:24:17

Unknown

The worst of the worst clients. Obviously when I started believing in birth, which were going into, I felt like a massive responsibility that I had to help these people. And, you know, I, I came to a point where I was like, getting trauma dumped on, and we went viral and stuff, which I'm going to get to.

:: 27:41:17

Unknown

But, you know, that isn't, our responsibility. And we're not trained to help people like that. And my thing is, is when someone comes to me in that sort of situation, I will do one thing. I will say, here's a breathing technique. Do not sit in it. Get off your phone. Change your diet and exercise into your life.

:: 28:04:00

Unknown

Yeah. Remove toxic negative people. Ground bare feet in the ground. Get to the beach every day. Get sunlight on the body up. Pure water. You know, start listening to positive music and positive podcast. Surround yourself with people who actually love you unconditionally and would clap when you succeed. There's like ten things, right? Yeah, do that every day for the next two weeks and call me 100%.

:: 28:25:12

Unknown

If you do that and you you do it for the next two weeks, I will work with you now. So basically what you're saying is to go back to basics. Yeah. And if those. Yeah, if those if those people, those really bad mindsets 99% of the time, 99% of the time, in three days I ring me and they go, Holy shit, hole has changed.

:: 28:44:08

Unknown

Totally different. And I'm like, I'm feeling different. I'm feeling a little bit more motivated. I'm not sluggish. I'm not. You don't even need me now. You didn't have to work with me. But you know, and that's another reason why we never, ever say that we're a healer. You're your own healer. You aren't. And I'm like, I've. I stand being called a healer.

:: 29:00:24

Unknown

I'm like, you know, you expect this person. I'm going to put my hands on you. Yeah. Save your life. You save your own fucking lot that just give you the tools. We're giving you knowledge. We're giving you education. We're giving you skills to take control of you. I'm not saying that there's not healers out there. And anywhere anyone is themselves a healer is like fraud or anything like that.

:: 29:18:18

Unknown

I'm saying that's not us, may I don't not being called a healer because you come to me. I give you the tools, the knowledge, the guidance, the love and the support to get you where you need to go when you do the fucking work. If you think you coming to me and I'm going to heal you, you're and you're you're fucking.

:: 29:32:18

Unknown

And we don't let you change my life. We're like, no, you changed. You changed my life. And I'm happy to receive that love and that gratification of helping, being a part of people's journey. That's. I love watching people change 100%. I love being part of people's chapters of that part of their life. I love that, but you change your own life.

:: 29:50:10

Unknown

We just hold your hand and sometimes humans just need to have their handheld and say, hey, you just walk this way here and we give you some. I like to call it, but kicking the native kick in the butt. And that's what we do in our programs. You know, you're not showing up. You're lacking on your fucking daily stuff.

:: 30:06:16

Unknown

I will, I will knock on your fucking door and kick in the ass because you'll you'll you're like the manifestation queen. And I'm not asking you. I'm like, I'm like, okay, if you don't show up, you know I'm gonna be a fucking results. You join our 12 month program and think things are going to change. Fucking no. Hundred percent.

:: 30:19:14

Unknown

Well, like, we've got $1,000 challenge and our program, the moment I'm like. And I say people don't say people not to say, I'm like I say to people, how much do you want to do? You do you want to be a millionaire or do you not? Because if you want to be a millionaire, everyone can be. You got to do millionaire shit.

:: 30:32:03

Unknown

What to do a millionaire? You've got to move differently. You got to think differently. You got to do things differently. And it's going to be fucking uncomfortable. And unless you're prepared to do the uncomfortable shit, you are going to be in the same position. So we see some people doing the work and then others aren't. So I say, don't come to me when you're still broke because you had a choice.

:: 30:51:09

Unknown

I literally had this conversation in a, Wednesday zoom session yesterday with I know online we are hard because when you do get results and this is the reason why we get results, that's all right. And I said, you know, I said to people, like, a lot of the time I get divorced, men come to me and going, oh, my life's in shambles.

:: 31:07:20

Unknown

I'm about to lose my kids and my wife. I get it all the time and I'm all right. I know exactly what we need to do here. Have a little conversation, and then we work out what you need and what's going on. And, usually, unfortunately for the men listening, listen to this. Because the women are going to agree when a woman wants to leave a relationship.

:: 31:24:18

Unknown

She checked out 12 months ago, bro. You know, and that's the thing. I'm sorry, I just disconnected. She stayed for the kids because it was easy, you know, because she she didn't want to hurt you. She told you? She said there will be sons. No she did. They're not science. I can almost guarantee that she told you she was unhappy.

:: 31:43:05

Unknown

You know, you see her as this cranky woman that maybe you came home from work and she was constantly cranky. But she was the person that tried to tell you multiple times that she was stressed, she was unhappy, and she felt like she was doing everything on her own, that she felt unsupported. And most of the time it comes down to emotionally unsupported by the male.

:: 32:00:17

Unknown

And she told you and then and I've seen this multiple times, and my family members are also, you know, victim to this as well. Yeah. It happens. The woman leaves and they go, I didn't see it coming. Yeah, you fucking did. You seen it coming? She told you? Yeah. So. And I've been in that situation as. Yes.

:: 32:19:09

Unknown

As a stupid man sometimes. She's not a straight man. Just learning. Yes, but, but but the thing is, is, you know, what happens here is the man goes, I want to change. And I'm like, all right. And they're like. And then when you find out their motivation, I'm going to prove to her that I'm the man she can be.

:: 32:38:04

Unknown

I'm going to prove to. I said, but, bro, so you're telling me you're going to get up at 6 a.m., you're going to breathe, you're going to journal, you're going to ground, you're going to connect, you're going to fucking do affirmations. You're going to do everything. Me and Christie targeted her. Yep. For her. All right. And what if you find out she's with someone else?

:: 32:53:21

Unknown

Then what happens? Fuck her. That's going to be the light. That'll be. Yeah. And then what happens? Well, I haven't seen motivation. I was in fuck, I did this for you. I was fucking getting up. I was doing all this shit. So then you go and drink, then you don't have sex and you go and party, and then you ruin your life.

:: 33:07:19

Unknown

So when when someone like that man or woman comes to me and I'm finding out your motivation to drive, even if it's for your children, if you're coming to me to be a better mom, get it? That no, get the fuck out and come back in with. We need to get you on par with, He has to better my life.

:: 33:24:18

Unknown

For me, it's all about being selfish. Because once it's for internal and you love yourself enough to show up, it's discipline is self-love, motivation. It's got to be for yourself. And like you said, I always say, you know, you can be motivated, motivated to go to gym, motivated to do this. But when the motivation lacks what happens, your discipline will override that motivation and get you into the gym and get you doing the things you do it in our program.

:: 33:50:13

Unknown

No, that's right, every fucking week. But. And then and then when your discipline lacks, as you say, desire comes in. Yes. When you when you're when your motivation like desire in life, what do you desire? Do you desire to be better? Do you desire to be rich? You desire to be mentally? Do you desire to feel fucking happy, or do you desire to be miserable?

:: 34:08:10

Unknown

Your choice. You all have choices. And and one thing on that selfish thing. The problem here is it's from a very, very young age. We're told not to be selfish. Share your toys as parents. So about everyone else, don't you know like you don't just think about yourself, help out this person. And then as adults was in there going, you know, like we people places obviously in that time people places come from parents hundred percent and then that happens.

:: 34:33:09

Unknown

But then as an adult, like people come to us and like, hey, be selfish. It is foreign as fuck to be selfish. It feels awful ever was. Yuck. It feels like, hey, this is not good, this is rude, this is wrong. And now we're trying to change again default settings. Right? But most parents in the modern society telling like you must respect me and don't make me feel like this and you're driving me crazy and you're going to fucking drive me up the wall.

:: 34:57:03

Unknown

So yeah, we're constantly everybody's kid. We're constantly telling our kids how they make us feel, which is fucking wrong, because then our kids create this inside thing. I don't want to, I don't want to. I don't want to make mom upset. I don't do this. That's a form of narcissism as well, because now your child is tip toeing around you.

:: 35:15:02

Unknown

Everybody has narcissism. Tries it just a bit. I'm going to say this right now. I, I say that's a form of narcissism because it's a form of narcissism. But I hate when someone comes when you guys my age is narcissistic, I think, oh, cool. What does that mean? Well, you heard that word on TikTok. You know, I mean like 100%.

:: 35:30:21

Unknown

Everyone has narcissistic traits. Like when I talk about symptoms of anxiety and ADHD and stuff, it's not a disorder. The symptoms that that you feel narcissism is behavioral. It's it's things that we do. And it usually comes from trauma or damaged people. So manipulation to get people to do and act a certain way. And that's right. And when you've got a narcissist and someone is horrible he's narcissistic.

:: 35:52:05

Unknown

Look at his childhood. Kind of look at their childhood. So I always say like, you know, we all have fun. We can all be spiteful and narcissistic and do narcissistic things and act in a narcissistic behavior. And that's because we're hurting and we're where our defense mechanism is. I'm trying to get back in control. We're trying to get back into control because we're feeling unsafe and hurt and lost, and we don't know how to do, especially men.

:: 36:14:05

Unknown

Another cycle, another cycle. So let's go back because, you know, this is this is the perfect example of ADHD symptoms right here that we all right boys going to breathwork left. Fucking amazing okay. Crazy was my life so different. I went home Google with Google picked up every single book. So he came home and he was like, my life is never going to be the same.

:: 36:35:18

Unknown

Yeah. And and and shit changed. And I seen it in his face. I seen it and how he was speaking. And at that time, like, I was going through some really challenging PTSD stuff, you know? And so here I was seeing this man so excited. So, yeah, I'm so motivated now. I'm looking up to these people like, they're fucking God like these breathwork things.

:: 36:57:09

Unknown

Amazing, amazing. Like, I want to make other people feel awesome. I started going other workshops from other people and just exploring breathwork and doing my own stuff. Practice and journaling and fucking feeling good in the mornings. Feeling good throughout the day. I felt more in control of my behavior, ADHD symptoms going. I started doing breathwork every morning. Yeah, breath breathwork religiously.

:: 37:19:17

Unknown

Showing up for myself, following all that breathwork is and everything that we're doing as well and and being really inspired, like I said, books and that I reached out to the people that I did the workshop with, I'm like, where do I go for school? So I researched every single school. I'm like, I want to be a breath worker.

:: 37:35:04

Unknown

And I was. And they gave you like they gave me the contact. I don't say thanks to get to the school that you chose was from these people that you looked up to. And, I what I was gonna say that, but it was something along the lines of, Yeah. Like, Oh, yeah. When a lot of people do the inner work with us, they go, how do I help other people?

:: 37:55:10

Unknown

Yeah, and everyone's got their own magic. Like, I work with a lot of men, a lot of people that, you know, going through toxic relationships. You work with a lot of women who've been through DV, and because you help the people that you want wanted to be helped a long time ago. Right? So and especially with your own experience, people come to make it resonate with your story.

:: 38:10:21

Unknown

Yeah. How do you fucking help me? So, yeah. You know, I wanted to help people that have been through my shit, which is probably totally different to the people I was looking up to, but, you know, so I went and weight shadowed breathwork school. It was, like, super expensive and, like, I'm working. I have, yeah, $10,000.

:: 38:27:10

Unknown

I'm working right in the mines. Didn't really know. And I had these, sales, customer service. Yeah, yeah. They were fucking ringing me and like, oh, it's that divine moment. Divine. Come on, you know, then they kept ringing and I was like, all right, fuck it. And then, I think what happened was it was like it worked out to be a good day.

:: 38:45:06

Unknown

Ended up being the next day. And literally, we sold your house to I sold my house. So I had the money. You had your house sold and then so you're like, fuck it, we're doing it. So you paid for it during this thing. And, you know, the the school was okay. It was like, not how I would run the school, but that that's my opinion.

:: 39:05:08

Unknown

And, I ended up paying a lot of people's opinion, and it ended up being a lot of people's opinion. There's a lot to say about that school. But I did all the work. I showed up religiously to the things I did, everything they said. Most people from that school came to me and said, I learned more from you than I did from the actual school itself.

:: 39:24:00

Unknown

I already knew everything. I read all the books that tell my story. I had fucking, I knew everything that was, you know, obviously I still learned shit. I'm still connected with people. I'm not saying I'm pedophile. And the crazy thing is about that school. Like, obviously just, overhearing some of your stuff, like, you had people there that were there to learn the education to become a birth worker, but there were people trading at like, therapy sessions, and that trauma dumping, trauma dumping, going to being triggered through school because of somebody said, sit in the class, which is why we run our classes the way we do, because people are there to do their own

:: 39:58:10

Unknown

work. But in, in the, in the, in the school, they should have a separation of like, here's a bunch of people who need to do the work and want to do the work. And then here's the other side of people who are fucking already done a lot of work, or you're at our school, you ready to start a business?

:: 40:16:06

Unknown

I was in I was in there with like people who had run yoga retreats for ten years and shit. And and now they're in rooms with people who are trauma dumping into the group. Yeah. And we did a meditation and someone got triggered and said they fucking were suicidal after a meditation on my this isn't cool. This is making people feel uncomfortable.

:: 40:31:01

Unknown

Yeah. So look, I really hope they've sorted all that out. I bring it to their attention. But that's not also not my responsibility. So yeah, halfway through some of that course, they said to do one on ones and small group sessions. So I started doing one on ones and I recorded them, with people's permission. With people's permission.

:: 40:51:08

Unknown

Yeah. And, that were like really, really fucking powerful sessions. I did a few of my new people. Yeah. I just reached out to doing I was doing it for free or charging a very small amount donation. And, people's lives were changing like it was insane. And I'm doing this breathwork and I'm seeing people crying and and I just like to say, like one of those first clients that he actually had, she now, like, she's done so much work with us, she has now also a breathwork donor.

:: 41:21:14

Unknown

My is doing, she does a trade average trade. She's she's she helped out of that. She's been on the floor at, events. Her partner has been in there. And this is the thing, like, with us, us breathwork is we have probably had about 20 or 30 people that has worked with us and our programs.

:: 41:41:01

Unknown

Her then became breath workers who had then been out to counter events. And then we help get their name out there as well, because this is what we are about connecting the community. And, you know, like we'll get into like how we've network to how the breathwork is. But, yeah. So I'm doing the work and as I said in our stories in our first podcast, you know, women and men are coming into the home.

:: 42:02:19

Unknown

Yeah. And I'm doing this breathwork and then big releases. Yeah. Big release is crying, screaming. You're still not understanding or in the breathwork yet, but then, was still working the way it works. I'm doing it on my break and I'm like, researching what the best appointment thing is. And I'm bringing in friends that have hair salons.

:: 42:20:15

Unknown

So what do you use for appointment setting booking systems? And I'm, I'm going through all these lessons learning what works there. And it was like kind of like what you're doing now with the business, what you're learning about CRM programs and yeah, you know, email marketing, there's all this stuff. So assistant sales system. So, you know, and then they said, all right, we got to a point where we had two groups.

:: 42:44:08

Unknown

So I did a group of nine people in my kitchen, which you helped out with, which you were not wanting to help out with an over. You might kick your will, drink and kick out and stuff. And I was still I was still not really for it. I didn't know. I was extremely naive. I didn't know anything about breathwork.

:: 43:01:06

Unknown

I was dealing with my own massive issues, and I was also dealing with who am I if I'm with a guy that is actually doing the work. So I had a lot of identity shifting going on at that time as well. And I was really upset because he was this man that was working with so many people, changing lives and wasn't changing mine, but I wouldn't do it because I was extremely just not for it.

:: 43:23:24

Unknown

Very shut down by that time. And so I was like, we're going to do this. And I was obviously trying to be a great partner and support you. Well, I don't I don't know where I stood, I didn't I, I was very confused at the stage, but I also didn't want to, you know, throw out your sparkles.

:: 43:39:24

Unknown

So he did nine people and, and we had, you know, we did nine people in this space. And I did this for our solo. I did meditation, and I got influence and inspiration from other workshops that I'd been to. But also like the course you were in and the courses in what I was doing, and I was just taking bits and pieces from everyone and adding what I thought.

:: 44:01:04

Unknown

And throughout my, throughout my, 1 to 1 sessions, I did this. Oh, I was the way it worked on this breathwork. Right. And I'm having all this hate and all this anger come through my breathwork. I'm sitting on the end of my bed or in the gym, and I'm like, fuck you. Like I did this little, like, fuck you.

:: 44:18:14

Unknown

And I had some tears and I'm like, fuck you. Like I'm good enough and like, fuck you. How do you say this about me? I'm like, fuck things that weren't going right for me and like, fuck. And you had big identity shifts at this time. Yeah. You're going from the world that you once knew that you're into a new world.

:: 44:34:20

Unknown

You're still in the mines. Your friends now, who you used to be with all the time out there drinking every night after work, you're all of a sudden not drinking after work or showing up and go to the gym in the morning. You're doing breathwork, pivoting. You're fucking crazy like you're shitting us. I had, I had am I, say who I grew up with?

:: 44:54:16

Unknown

Like I was doing breathwork, at like 3:00 in the morning, and a meditation. And he goes and he said on the comment, he goes, if I seen someone doing that, I'm like, what crack are they on? Yeah. And I'm like, it's okay to not understand what I'm doing. But at that time when I. When I understand you.

:: 45:10:05

Unknown

Yeah. And then and then I had a little ego towards it like I did in boxing, remember, like, man, do you know the science behind breathwork, what's happening with oxygen and parts of your brain and your lungs and your blood and your body and I don't care, but you also want to know that I sipped probably this. I probably wanted to be accepted, this new version.

:: 45:25:01

Unknown

So, as you said, you know, I was hanging out biking gang members, toxic masculinity. You know, I grew up in, you know, areas where, you know, you fought and you drank and all that sort of stuff. So that was the cool at the moment. Are you going to like a new, this new. Yeah. So like, I'm sort of like jumping the fence at this moment.

:: 45:42:10

Unknown

I felt like and I will say, I've done breathwork with a lot of these sort of friends, presidents of black clubs over raised and all that sort of stuff, which I will get into. And that has been like an awesome journey as well, working with those sorts of men and people from my past on that side, like, people from school even, or people from like we've done a full circle.

:: 46:03:13

Unknown

So we used to hang out all these bad people. Not bad, but people still growing and moving through life. And then we've met again over. And it's like a different world. It's like awesome. Quite cool. So did these nine people. People I've told my neighbors. People like crying, screaming on the floor, absolutely crazy. You warned the neighbors that you're like, no one's getting murdered.

:: 46:24:02

Unknown

You're like, helping me hold space. I'm like showing you, like how we do. We did like, a very gentle sort of breath where people were still lacing. And we had some amazing people that day that we're still friends with now, who've done a lot of work with us. But we did did all this sort of stuff. And then, you know, had I told the school and like, we had videos and stuff of that in the schools, like, yeah, well done, well done.

:: 46:45:22

Unknown

Like other people were doing groups of like 2 or 3 or still on one. And then it was for you. Yeah, yeah. The school was for me and I had to do another two sessions, two full sessions for, progress and write it all down. And what happened and, you know, like, document it and then, so the second one I did was at a community hall.

:: 47:06:20

Unknown

Never had a community hall before this rang the one down the road and I the fucking thing. And it was 19 people. My mum came. There was like all these other people, they just organic from social media, not running ads, not putting fliers out, just anything. Just. Yeah. And just, you know, we got a little speaker and an a sticker sage my on stage and my blessing people.

:: 47:28:11

Unknown

And, you know, you're making you're making out and, so we've up to a little bit now we've got free platform. I'm up there in front of 19 people just talking about the nervous system and very sciencey. Yeah. Which I've changed now because people get bored. Yeah. When I go into very sciencey stuff on the human biology and the biochemistry.

:: 47:46:09

Unknown

Yeah. It's not people just want to do it. So, Yeah. And then we the next one was out in Culham and around the bush. We had that that was 45 people, and I was still working around the mine. So it's coming back and running these events and, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I shared it with the school.

:: 48:02:20

Unknown

Everyone was like, well, 45 people, I what the fuck? And I was like, my third. And we had we had people helping us out at those events. Yeah. So we had, I, I know, I know, the school taught you that it was like seven, 7 to 1 ratio for people. And we were doing like big releases. So, you know, we made sure we had enough qualified other breath workers in that at our events.

:: 48:22:20

Unknown

And, and, and I wasn't qualified yet, but I was I was given permission. And breathwork is a gray area as well. We know that, it is very gray area, but we, under the, insurance because, you know, we had insurance with them, so, you know, to. Yeah. And I had my own public liability as well, which I went and got under training.

:: 48:43:00

Unknown

So I actually had my own insurance and I was like, had school training schools allowed to be doing it isn't doing anything illegal. Yeah. And running events with. Yeah, public liability in case you just have to have that. Anyway, when you run any sort of protected. Yeah. So, then I'm sitting on the end of my bed breathwork 3:00 every single morning breathing.

:: 49:05:01

Unknown

And I'm saying I'm going to do 100 people doing this shit. I'm going to do 100 people. And you're like, I don't know how. And I remember I wanted to do more luxury breathwork. I want to like nice hotels and I want to boogie breathwork, you know, I want to really nice venues. And we ended up, I ended up ringing and said, I'm going to get this Airbnb in Perth.

:: 49:24:03

Unknown

I'm going to do like 50 people in like, this mansion. You know, I'm just going to hire this, like, and you're like, where the fuck are we getting this money from? But we weren't aligning. No, you didn't understand. You didn't know what else to do. You didn't even like the crying and the screaming because you were like, you didn't get it.

:: 49:36:24

Unknown

You didn't understand how it was like, you know, when it first was happening. Like it was really affecting me. Like I was a you also going to hear of my own stuff. But I'm also a big impact. And I, you know, with me crying, you still now I do now when you're holding space, you'll be certain people that will really like I feel I do a lot of things, energy cleansing and stuff.

:: 49:54:24

Unknown

Now, I've already done so much of my own work. I know so much stuff. But, you know, I and the the true key here is I've done a lot of my own work back then. I hadn't done too much of my own work, and I was enjoying both because it's helping and holding space. Well, you were doing you were doing the kick out in the could you make the best kick out shout out to kick our collective as well?

:: 50:12:07

Unknown

Our beautiful friends from because Yasmina actually taught me how to do that. And I'll make a YouTube press of them as well. And I'd have to. Yeah, I did, Bruce, because. Yes. And yeah. So kick our collective is where we were getting our stuff from. And you were making it and it was tasted so amazing. People were buying it because you made it taste so good.

:: 50:29:17

Unknown

It's all about the honey. So. Yeah. You were trying to support me, even though you, like, didn't understand it. You going through your shit? And I was confronting the label. Yeah, we had to leave the label, which we were like, co, you know, we're wearing it at our events or wearing on stage, stuff like that. So moving forward, I'm like, I'm going to do this tour.

:: 50:48:15

Unknown

I went and hired a graphic designer that you were using with the lady label, and I said, can you do me up a poster? Yeah, I'm going to do it. And in this time all this was going on. I had then done my first right through breathwork session. That's right. That's me. Yeah. So. So you started to believe in it.

:: 51:04:18

Unknown

Sorry, sorry. I did my first right through a birth session, which we've already talked. I you started doing daily breathwork. Go back to, one of our podcast if you haven't heard that session. But, I literally came out of that session and was like, Holy fuck, you're not going back to the minds. The world needs to know this.

:: 51:22:11

Unknown

I had never experienced anything in my life that gave me an instant release. Like, I truly felt like with that emotional, sick, heavy pain that was in my body flow out through my fingertips. And again, if you haven't listened to one of our first podcasts, please go back and listen to that. It's a three part. It was a three part.

:: 51:43:21

Unknown

Yep. It is. It was the moment my life truly changed and my life has never been the same since because of breathwork. And so now I had the holy fuck, the world needs to know this because I've been a in pain majority my my whole life. And I have done everything going to every psychotherapy, I've done every self-development, course it ever came out.

:: 52:04:15

Unknown

I've done landmark Forum, I've done Reiki, I've done kinesiology, I've done rites of passage, I've done it all. And so when I finally had this is like, okay, fuck it. Like, I don't know how we're making this work, but it is our job now to help as many people as possible because I my motto in life is to see the world of my pain free.

:: 52:21:20

Unknown

That's right. And I never quite knew how I was going to do that. I've always been in a helping industry. I've either been, you know, and like I said, all of these things that I've done is also personal China. So I believed it, you know, so when Beau came to me with his crazy ideas because Bo is the jump first think leader.

:: 52:39:09

Unknown

And that's why I am the let's fucking get the numbers right, you know? So we kind of made a bit of it. And you said to me, hey, I'm ready to do an Australian tour. And what do you honestly think that we're going to get people, how are we going to fly? How are we going to hold forwards and all this stuff?

:: 52:56:14

Unknown

So I think was, you know what, as long as we get ten people and each of these places course it'll pay for itself, we'll go, we'll go. Well. And I said, even if one person shows up, I'll fucking do it. Yeah. And that's what I was about at the time. I was like, I don't care. You were so passionate.

:: 53:12:20

Unknown

I just wanted to do it. You are so. And I'm like, and I'm like, part of me. This polite, crazy belief manifestation was like going to do it. And the other half was scared as fuck. But I didn't care. But what gave me the motivation to do this was, I these two videos. Yeah. And, there were of two people that done better with me.

:: 53:33:03

Unknown

One, the one heavy, heavy activation, heavy releases, crying, screaming. Some of them are laughing uncontrollably through this lot of movement, a lot of shaking, convulsing. And if you guys that are listening really want to learn more about sort of like trapped emotions, suppressed emotions, the somatic work paid all of means waking. The tag is really good about somatic healing and how we can move through things in the brain and the body and vessel.

:: 54:03:15

Unknown

Then cough, the body keeps squatting is an amazing. That was I, I read that book before I even knew about breathwork, and it's because a friend of mine at the time had actually started to try to understand who you stand, what your body is going on, right? Book. And when you understand it and you go and then you're going to breathwork, and when you actually understand your body, then it makes sense to why you're lying on the ground crying and screaming and releasing shit from your childhood, or from breakups or from childhood trauma, parents, whatever.

:: 54:35:10

Unknown

But there's a lot of good things that come through as well and level your out and balance in the body. And there's a lot of health and wellness to the breathwork as well. So so, so and 95 people. Yeah. And then I there's two videos. Yeah. Two videos of people crying and screaming. I was really insecure about them.

:: 54:50:18

Unknown

Didn't really want to share them on social media. But I was like, this works so powerful. We even did some breathwork the other day where, well, I quit, but this is just it's just amazing. Now I after doing breathwork for nearly three years, I still every breathwork session go. How crazy is that? We can breathe and people know you can see someone in front of you, talk therapy and talk about the most, deepest, darkest stuff.

:: 55:10:15

Unknown

They might have a tear, they might break down, they might not. They might just talk about it like numb to it. But when you breathe and lay someone down, everything just comes forth like. Like I'm talking about full convulsing, shaking, uncontrollable crying. You know, it's it's insane. So. Yeah. Anyway, two videos and, I was working around the mines.

:: 55:30:23

Unknown

I'm going to, I'm going to put on TikTok. I'm going to say like the caption was, oh, there's none of your friends. It because none of my friends on TikTok, sorry, Instagram or Facebook. I was like, not on my bike. You might. So my friends that I've grown up with, or even my family would be out doing really weird shit.

:: 55:47:05

Unknown

So spiders in which it again. Yeah. So I'm always going to do something weird. So I'm like, I'm like, all right then, I'll put it on TikTok. I don't really use TikTok. It went sort of semi viral on there. Like years ago when it was like musically or whatever. And I'm like, all right, whatever, and I'll put it up.

:: 56:03:08

Unknown

And I was still living in fear of judgment and fear of failure. So I was like, if someone puts a nasty comment, I'll delete the whole video, which that was my belief system, right? Just run away from any negativity. So, which I still work through today, I'm aware of some things that happen and I'm like, so, put this video up, told you about it, and I said, like, you know, if anyone fucking says anything, I'll delete it.

:: 56:25:16

Unknown

And the caption was, time won't heal you, which is really powerful. Time won't heal you. And it's really cool because time doesn't heal. And it's crazy because we've grown up with time. You get older, people will literally say, time heals everything, keep it together, all that shit. So just get through it. Just in time, things will be better.

:: 56:46:05

Unknown

Yeah. In time things will be better. So, I woke up in the morning 80,000 followers, TikTok, 100 something. Found my Instagram fucking. And I'm talking like hundreds of people reaching out for hundreds and hundreds of messages. Hundreds, some like, Holy fuck, help me. And then Tommy. I was away at work and I was checking my TikTok every five minutes and I'm ringing you going left.

:: 57:08:01

Unknown

And I literally was 100,000. I was at point parents. It is during the stairs and you're like, holy shit vibe. Like, if I was it a million views? If I had a million views, I'm going to quit my job. I'm going to quit my job. We're fucking out of here. I'm quitting my job. And I was like, like, we're having fights at this time because I'm like, you're like stability, stability and sane staying ability.

:: 57:27:21

Unknown

And I'm like, I want to chase my dreams. And I was like, yes. And he's like, you're holding me back. I'm unhappy. You know? Like, I want to do my thing. You're holding me back. And I'm like, you, our father. You want me to be supporting us, you know, like you know, and my red flags are going off like, yep.

:: 57:41:07

Unknown

Fucking. You can't rely on a man here we go again. You got be a single fucking mom again, you know. So I had a lot of things going on. But you know, if you have listened to my podcast, you know, my past. So. Yep. So hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of messages and I'm like, on my phone this like trying to support all of these people.

:: 57:55:13

Unknown

And there's some real negative shit in two different ways. Yeah, there's a lot of people trauma dumping on me. I've heard shit that I didn't think happened to humans in real life. I thought it was all part of movie. And I think this is also a moment in time for you that I think you started to get quite humble, because I think beforehand you were quite naive, like you knew the world, that you were in beforehand, but you were in there in a egotistical way.

:: 58:21:08

Unknown

Right now you are sitting here going, how the fuck been going through that? People from? So I hit the first million followers. I saw the first million, views. Views. Now we're up to, I think one of our videos are about to click over 100 million. So ones, 100 million views and we've got nearly 700,000 followers on TikTok now, we, we have like we do more of our engagement on sort of Instagram and stuff like that because it's just you can't keep up, you can't monetize 20,000 comments on one video.

:: 58:52:04

Unknown

Yeah, it's crazy. And there's a lot of mixture of people not really wanting help or needing help. If they need us. They know where to find this Instagram message or something says ways to get so work with us now. Comments in the comments were, you know, I think like I said, you know, so so people were basically like, you know, all over America had NBA players reaching out to me.

:: 59:10:21

Unknown

I'd let Bible fucking 5 million followers reach out to me. I've had people all around the world, podcast, radio, same, videos. And I'm like, I've only just done this. And we blow up fast. You you blow up fast, you became reckless, fast and and to be honest, no one was ready for this. We were not ready for this.

:: 59:32:03

Unknown

I'm most certainly wasn't. And there was, you were in this world of, like, not knowing who I was and where I was going and trying to find out who I am and feeling. I, massive responsibility. Yeah, that's that's what was heavy. I'm like, okay, all these people want me and my, sort of, my sort of messaging was anxiety, depression, trauma, trauma, trauma was a heavy word.

:: 59:56:24

Unknown

I just used constantly. Haley trolling. Haley trauma. Haley trauma. And, you know, anxiety, anxiety, anxiety, ADHD. So you're attracting that clientele, and people are looking at you as if you can help them like your God. I'm God. And I felt a little bit like God at the time, to be honest. And I was just like, you know, I was like, up here.

:: 00:14:16

Unknown

And it was like. And the reason why you felt like that is because you knew how powerful this work was. I knew, I knew, I knew how I could help people who had done the work. So you were like, you knew how it changed my life. I changed lives in front of me. It changed your life 100%. So you're so.

:: 00:29:02

Unknown

And that term, like, you're like, okay, cool. Like, these people need help. I can help them. But this became super heavy for you, so it's crazy. It's crazy because right now a lot of people listening to this going on, I've seen all this shit and I'm now listening to them and I want to work with them. And now we're actually moving away from.

:: 00:43:17

Unknown

Yeah, yeah. Which we're going to talk about. Yeah, we're moving into like more away. We're not doing that. We're going to talk about it, but we're moving away from this now because we've been in this and it doesn't really serve us. It's not sort of who we are anymore. It's not it's not that it doesn't always clients that we're changing our direction.

:: 01:00:03

Unknown

That's all there is to it. But at the end of the day, for you, you you are a fun, light hearted person. I'm, I'm, I'm I'm a guy. A lucky fucking guy. Yeah. Extroverted. Yeah. Funny class clown. Happy. Big energy sort of guy. And I found myself having conversations with people, like, all over America. Right? I'm getting messages saying I was kidnaped, but I was kidnaped at this age.

:: 01:27:00

Unknown

My mom was shot in front of me. My dad fucking killed my whole family, and then me, and then I'm like, I'm like, I didn't know that this shit happened, like, the worst of the worst shit that you thought happened in movies at happened to real people. And I'm like, you know, I've got my own trauma and everyone has trauma and childhood trauma.

:: 01:45:15

Unknown

I hate the word trauma. I now say life experience because we all have life experience. People come to me, I don't really have trauma tonight. And then I'm like, let's talk. How I was bullied at school. So let's go back to that. But I just want to say on this, this is fucking important. Yeah. You know, and your parents broke up when you're seven.

:: 02:00:07

Unknown

Fucking traumatic. You know, you were dumped by a girlfriend at 16, and then she went with you. My fucking traumatic. The world around you. Your life experience creates who you are now and how you see the world. So, you know, for me, trauma wasn't just, you know, rape and murder and violence and like, all these horrible things, life experiences, like traumas, anything too much, too fast, success, which happened to me too much, too fast was traumatic, overwhelming, I lot anxiety, imposter syndrome didn't really fucking what the fuck was going on.

:: 02:32:13

Unknown

So and I'm looking up to all my peers who turn their back on me, which will get into. And for me, I'm like, just trying to fucking work out what the fuck is going on because it was all so much, so fast. I was it, I was all over the internet. What the fuck? I'm gonna. You work in the mines.

:: 02:47:08

Unknown

Then we had a baby. It was literally. And we blew. It was literally. I literally was gonna go back to what you were about to say, but I went from nine people in my kitchen to 170 people, and I was on stage and within three months and that and I've seen a lot of people. Yeah, a lot of my peers, a lot of my school was like, what the fuck are you doing?

:: 03:06:03

Unknown

Like, and we will get into that. But yes, go back to what you were going to say. Oh, just like, you know, we just I want to talk about like, you know, at the time, like, you know, you felt a massive sense of responsibility. Oh, it was heavy. It was hot, it was heavy. It was hard. You also felt like, I've gotta help this.

:: 03:21:07

Unknown

I'm not a psychologist. I'm not a psychiatrist. But you felt this urgency that you had to help, and I knew I could help people, but I. But how I would help someone in America who was living in that car, who had the worst trauma that ever happened to them in their life. And I had no money or no resources.

:: 03:36:21

Unknown

And I'm like talking to this person all day, every day. And then you're like, and you're like, what are you doing? And I'm like, man, if I don't talk to this person, they're going to fucking end their life like it. And I think that's where this is like, you know, everything happened so fast and also us, you were thrown into a world that you didn't know about so fast.

:: 03:56:04

Unknown

You were having so many people reaching out to you, more than you could even keep up with, like the inbox you you would just get through one inbox. 50 more, messages were coming. It's heavy to light. And I look at psychologists and I'm a new found respect for them. And, one thing I think as well is, like, all these therapists and psychologists and all that, you know, they all get mascot imposter syndrome at some point.

:: 04:20:01

Unknown

And like, what I do hate is like all these, like, people out there that a therapist or like, whatever you do, kind of like fucking breathwork, psychologist, psychiatry doctor, lawyer, whatever you fucking do. And they try and act like this professional way post. We are real people that help real people. We eat, drink, we chat, appears, we do cocktails, we get on there and say we fucked up in business, we lost money or we didn't get it right.

:: 04:46:05

Unknown

And I didn't get it right the whole time doing breathwork. And that's all part of learning and how I've become what I've come today and life is learning. And the thing is, like, you know, even on that lesson about getting it perfect, life is about learning from your mistakes, growing from them, and then fucking teaching other people to follow the right path.

:: 05:03:02

Unknown

Yeah, and you had to. Everyone has to go through people like us that we do impact other people. We, you know, you can thank us for all the fuck ups we've had because we have to go through this and then we can you can help other people, you know? And so we're not upset with our paths. We know the path that we took.

:: 05:18:21

Unknown

But, you know, like there's learning ways that breathwork, those videos that blow up so fast, you didn't know who you were at all, like, all of a sudden you've been and I'm from and we're trying to trying to you were trying to deal with your own stuff. I'm trying to. I'm still living in fear of judgment and fear of failure at this point.

:: 05:37:13

Unknown

And I'm getting messages like, this guy's a scammer. These are actors. I'm getting religious people coming on. They're saying that you're doing the devil's work. You're gonna you're gonna fucking, you're gonna burn and happen in hell. And I'm like, and all this shit's affecting me. And then you've come to me and put this lot on me and going, Laura, these people that are reaching out for help, everyone's like, this works.

:: 05:56:13

Unknown

Amazing. Modern. Well done. I had breath workers, messaging me saying, you know, fucking what are you doing? You're like, this is like, you're doing the wrong thing. And then all these people started talking and like, you know, I'm getting messages from breathwork schools and people saying like that fucking. They're going to shut me down. What's this thing going on?

:: 06:16:17

Unknown

So like, I'm not only dealing with, like, all this heaviness of what the world that we need help for me, and then, like, I've jumped this fence, right? What I've realized there was spiritual ego, but I've jumped this fence of, like, Porky's and strippers and drugs and alcohol. Not that I used the drugs, but I was branded.

:: 06:34:02

Unknown

I was around it. And that was your fighting violence? No more than my mates. My mates would like to go out and punch fucking the fuck out of other people, which like, I don't understand. I've been involved in fights and all that sort of shit and that's what I knew, right? And but I still fight for my friends today.

:: 06:48:19

Unknown

Like that's in me. Like if I see my friend in trouble or someone trying to hurt my family, that's who I am. But I use that wisely now, obviously. And and have more control of my ego and things like that. But choosing your battles is what we call that. Yeah. But, you know, and then now I've jumped this fence where I feel like I was, you know, in the breathwork world where you're going to be loved and respected and God and supported, and everyone's about love and like, no breathwork is attacking me on social media, sending me messages, you fucking this or that?

:: 07:18:23

Unknown

And I'm like, is this am I a bad person? Like, am I? Is this jealousy? Is this, is this whatever? And for me, just on that for me watching my partner being it fucked me up, being slammed and attacked because I just wanted to be loved and accepted. That's all I want. And you were coming from a good place, like everything you were doing.

:: 07:39:03

Unknown

People were saying I was one one comment we get all the time is I'm exploiting. Exactly. But you pay money to place, you've wanted to help people. And this is the sad thing here, is that you never went into this to be an awful person. You. There's a definitely a, I'll be honest, there was a sense of like, where I got to like this point where I thought I was God, and I was, like, doing all these suck.

:: 07:59:13

Unknown

And I felt powerful. Which was you suppose you were helping others? But but I was, I was, I was fucking hell. And I felt like I had this superpower, which was breathwork, and I could just heal anybody. And then obviously through many, many years of me doing work on myself and research and all that sort of stuff, that I had completely changed my work and the way we do things.

:: 08:19:00

Unknown

And anyway, so yeah, so just back to onto that. So when this happened, when these people were saying these things, it was sad for me as your partner to watch you just go downhill. And I knew I was good at what I did. You were good at what you did. I knew I was I was watching you, you know, like, and I'll be honest, it was just that one time when the signal was on the phone and these people.

:: 08:42:09

Unknown

So. So what had happened was, I'm going to say this because I want to this is my story and I'm going to say this. So I, I after those viral videos happened, we had a massive following. And that's when I was like, we're going to do the tour because I'm having people Sydney, Sydney, Sydney, Melbourne, Melbourne, Melbourne, Adelaide.

:: 08:58:13

Unknown

So I had this and I knew how social media worked and I knew how to go viral organically then. And I'm like, you know, whatever. And then I'm like, well, let's fucking let's help Australia. So I said, I want to do this Australian tour now. Every tour we started to do got bigger. So, the biggest one was Perth that was bigger.

:: 09:16:10

Unknown

So like 40, 45 now I went around the map as you would drive it. I don't know why. That's just what I did. And I created that poster for, I believe, the label designer. Then I did Adelaide, we went to Adelaide. It was near 50 people nervous as fuck. I was nervous and people chant that. That was a fucking awesome thing.

:: 09:36:03

Unknown

We left there. We met Pete, who follows us around the country now doing, our videography and photography. That was like 45 people. Then the next one was Melbourne. That was 99 people. And I'm telling you, I sat on the end of my bed for a year straight, manifesting that I would have 100 people in front of me, and I was like 99, like one person off.

:: 09:59:13

Unknown

There was no young people in the very next one, Sydney 100, and you were doing all the marketing and everything for the label, and I came to you before this. I skipped a bit. Sorry. Oh, are you going to sell this? No, no, no, I just go, Yeah. And I said to you, you you did all the marketing course, and I said, I want you to run ads for me, and you go, I don't know how to run ad service base.

:: 10:23:09

Unknown

I do products like I work with Jay. Right. You know, he teaches us had any product base. So he went to Jay, right. And he's like, oh, now we just do product or whatever. Can't remember the exact camera. Is that right? Yeah. And then, yeah. And I was like, well, just do the same thing you're doing with your silly dancing with our stuff.

:: 10:38:13

Unknown

When he sold out our peach colored hoodies and shorts and do it with this. So he did it and we started watching people coming in, people coming in, people coming. And tickets are so ding ding ding. You know, we high five. We still high five. Now when we get a ticket it's a thing. I was like, yes, we know we're going to change someone's life.

:: 10:55:03

Unknown

And then thing I didn't got a small venue for the council, you know. And then and then the going up and I'm like, Kirsty, like my heart's beating every time. Every time you said there's a ticket on my it's turn it off, turn the ads off, man. Like, you know I'm ringing awake before these things. Fucking canceling venues and trying to get bigger venues.

:: 11:13:20

Unknown

Impossible. No one can fit this amount of people on yoga mats like, you know, indoors with fucking music and where we can be loud, you know, because you got people crying and screaming and we're going to like libraries and shit, you know, impossible courts and to libraries, like, which is all fucking being crazy lessons, getting venues and stuff.

:: 11:30:16

Unknown

This is all things we didn't know. Yeah, this is all little learnings along the way. You know, this is business. I've almost been kicked out of venues because people come and go, what the fuck's going on this room? Well, like get out. People feeling like, get the fuck out. Yeah, kids are next door wondering what the fuck's going on.

:: 11:43:20

Unknown

So, you know, this is all we're learning. And then, you know, we will eventually got the Gold Coast. We took the whole family with us, and it was a really proud moment for us. You know what? I came into you. Yeah. And I said to it, is the proudest moment of my life. I've actually never felt this proud of myself.

:: 12:03:00

Unknown

In this moment, you know, and I. And I felt it in my family. Does that make you emotional? Yeah. And I had, I thought I fucking I, I'd done everything right, you know, and then and I just want to say on this like we had I think about 20 people working with us, I had 20, I had no I was just 15, 15 qualified breath workers and therapists.

:: 12:25:04

Unknown

Yeah. Working on that. I hunted for I went on social media and I'm like, wait, we go to this big group of people. Amazing, you know? And they loved us. Yeah, we got them on stage and we're like, promote everything you do for Gold Coast. Yeah, we we want you guys. If you guys love any of these 15 people lined up, it was like a half an hour to an hour.

:: 12:42:12

Unknown

Let them all speak. Yeah. And people coming up to our offering go. Why did you let us do that? And I'm like, because I want you guys to win two. Yeah. And I want people on the floor to have help if they didn't, like, also resonate with us. And I want you to share your story as our main mission.

:: 12:56:14

Unknown

And I couldn't believe that we were pain free and we didn't care how that would be. Yeah. And that's and that's the thing. And on this before we get to this next point, you know, you can own a hair salon and not be a hairdresser. You can own a breathwork studio and not be a breath worker. You can own a restaurant and not be a chef.

:: 13:15:18

Unknown

That's right. And we learned that in the business world. Now we look at some of the top, top real estates in Bali, good friends of ours. And they don't have any real estate license. They own the company. And when they sell a piece of property, they run it through their business. And this world is wrapped up on this.

:: 13:32:19

Unknown

You must have this tape, okay? And you must be this person experience and and and and and and I'm going to say I wasn't qualified at the time of doing this. I wasn't. And whether you think that's right or wrong in the spiritual world, you go out to the fucking Himalayas and do fucking some healing session with a fucking monk or an old Indian elder.

:: 13:53:09

Unknown

Do you think I have a piece of paper that fucking gives them that? No, they don't have that experience. Yeah, it's what they have. But you were in school like you just. Oh, well, I do. Everything I did was right. Right. But we were told where it was. Okay. So we had. So then we had all this. We had a all clear by the school they was in.

:: 14:12:05

Unknown

We were full. I think you were four weeks off. From I was just about to get qualified was in what was in the process of getting. So this is an 8 or 9 month course, your four weeks off getting a certificate. And I'll just want to clarify here is that we had 15 other qualified breathwork at this event.

:: 14:28:09

Unknown

At this event. So this event was crazy in this world that I had created. And I was so proud of and everyone there is filming and there's fucking Instagrams going bananas that where on stage with only six hour events and people were tagged people that I looked up to, people. The reason I got into this world, for people that I looked up to as God, I was dressing like them.

:: 14:52:11

Unknown

I was talking like them. I was like, so inspired and motivated by them. And the crazy thing here is, is that, you know, one of the things that they had said that, you know, we'd both been to the event. I'd never been to the event. I did not look up to these people. I did think that they were good at what they did, but I didn't even follow them.

:: 15:09:19

Unknown

I I'm not a person like that. I am my own. Like, it was my thing, you know? And I. And I dragged you along and I got dragged. My man got dragged through the mud through this, and it was crazy. So. So basically what happened was they messaged me that night. So proudest moment of my life actually, we got messages from multiple friends saying, hey, these people are talking about you.

:: 15:28:04

Unknown

So. So the first one was when we got back to the hotel, I was standing in the bathroom and I said, proudest moment of my life. He was at home. It was earlier and his proudest moment is life. And I had this sick gut feeling. And you looked at me. I said, what's wrong? And I said, what? I said, I got out of the shower.

:: 15:48:12

Unknown

I put my towel around. I'm a highly intuitive person. And I had a message from someone saying, Holy fuck. We ended up with like several messages. I had a message from someone who said, Holy fuck, have you seen this? And that's me screenshots and all I this is pure jealousy. And I was just blown away. Blown away that someone, two people that are in this world who are meant to be the most top of the range, best to what they did, working with the most key people, was stripping us down on social media, going down.

:: 16:30:03

Unknown

And at that moment I was like, you two had not in this for the right reason. Because if you're Gen Y kid, because I generally care about human beings, I could never do that to anyone. And if they generally kid, they would have got in contact with you directly. But they did. They they told me to do my certification as well.

:: 16:50:16

Unknown

And, I saw it. I did everything they asked me to do. And now you did everything they told you to do, apparently. Like, And I did say, like, I was like the friend all his friends at the time closely to where I grew up with them and questions for them. So I'm like, you know, we're all friends or homies, you know, like whatever.

:: 17:09:09

Unknown

And then you really did look up to them. Yeah, all of them, every everyone in that thing. And I was like, just trying to find me and do my thing. And then I get this message saying, like, we're going to sue you and you're copying us. Now I pay and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, this is like like, can I just this is not what I want to do.

:: 17:25:02

Unknown

We actually dance to the fucking wiggles at oh, man. So I leave you completely different fucking with what are we doing? I did apparently there was a breathwork technique that was copied word for word, which was. And I was inspired by it. And I did my own sort of breathwork technique and added different parts. And I didn't know that just doing breathwork could be copied, like I was just like I was doing breath holds and breathing 100% and just had to sign that.

:: 17:48:05

Unknown

If anyone out there wants to copy any of my breathing techniques, I want you to do that. Anything that I do on stage or in my online program, if you like it, please do it. And this is the reason why this is important, because we are here to inspire you guys to. Yeah, because my main goal in life is to see the world emotionally pain free.

:: 18:07:08

Unknown

So if there's stuff that we're doing that you love do is use it at your events, use it with your clients, use it however you want, because that is what we're all about. That is, where is true integrity true authentic? That's right. You know, like I want you guys to share this work because, you know, we we send we send oh, oh so many people to do breathwork training 100%.

:: 18:29:07

Unknown

And we found and we send it to and I'm just going to I'm going to do a shout out right now. You're harnessed from breathless expeditions. An amazing man. We've done breathwork training there, along with other places. But we, we send everyone there. It's a five day retreat out in the snowy mountains. Hey. Is amazing. He's amazing, knowledgeable, cool, down to earth guy who gets it.

:: 18:49:03

Unknown

And, it just gets like, he's just amazing with cold therapy. And, yeah, he's definitely one of the best people in the world. So for breathwork and training and facilitation. So if you want to get qualified. Yeah. Contact you can leave the know you came from us. Yeah. Love love love. So so that week was a whole week of being slandered and smashed online with stuff that wasn't even true.

:: 19:09:22

Unknown

Like you said, you didn't go to any of the events. They said multiple events and you went to one. That was saying things that we'd done or said or were involved in, which wasn't true. Then they contacted my school, then they contacted me, and this was like, this was like then. And then I'm like, I want my blood like.

:: 19:27:11

Unknown

And I'm like my little boy inside was like, I like, I wanted to stop breathwork. I was like, no, I'm not in this for this. Like, I'm not a competition. I'm not, I'm out there, follow my dream, my passion. And these people are seeing me as like, I'm trying to either copy them or beat them still. And one of the at this point, I still looked up at them.

:: 19:44:12

Unknown

I was like, you guys are doing all of the things I said was we had to work ten years to get to where we were, and they come in just like that, that there, right? I didn't mean to come in, just like I just come in and just like that, I wasn't like, I wasn't like, I'm going to fucking do this better or bigger.

:: 19:58:20

Unknown

I was just there weren't even in their mind. They wouldn't or not, I didn't even want to do these big events because your marketing went crazy. And I was like, turn the marketing off. And it was all just like, it all just happened so fast, happened so fast. And like, we're just always just trying to do the right thing and like, what do they say?

:: 20:12:21

Unknown

Like when you're at your top, there's a speech when Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. And I listened to it the other day and they said, you know, when you're at your top, expect the devil to come. Oh, yeah, that was Denzel Washington. Denzel Washington, when you hit the top and know that the devil was coming. Yeah.

:: 20:30:00

Unknown

And that was. I'm not joking. It was literally like you looked at me and say, this is a proud moment, proudest moment of my life. And then half an hour later, I was wish, I wish. And, I'm going to tell you this about three months before this or a couple months before this is in the shower. And I was sort of plateauing, like I had all this breathwork stuff going on.

:: 20:47:06

Unknown

I'm still working on the minds, but I was sort of like, wanted more out of life. And I'm like, God, universe, give me a fucking lesson. And this was the biggest lesson a lot. This fucked me up for about six months to a year, a year. And, well, yeah, heavily that, but then other things. But you know, for me, I'm so cold now with people I actually fucking, you know, we're in we're in Bali the other day and our friends, like, you gotta make this breathwork.

:: 21:12:18

Unknown

I said, not interested. And now I'm closing myself off the opportunity because of trauma and fear which these people had done to us. They went hands on us for a week or so, posting our logos photos week. We captured it all and I didn't reply to nothing. Yeah, I replied to absolutely nothing and sat quiet. You know what the funny thing is like at this time where people were saying like messaging, friends of a friends and saying, fuck, do these guys know what's going on?

:: 21:36:21

Unknown

You know what's being said? Well, I didn't know really know what to say because I'm like, I still were watching these people. And then they blocked us. And like, I didn't even get a chance to reply. And I didn't know how to contact. And this is another thing, they sent a big, long message that night and then blocked and then blocked him.

:: 21:50:01

Unknown

And this is another thing. Like if they were sincere, like it's just crazy for me. Like this is pure jealousy. This is pure insecurity. And it's which they do, which I said on the socials that it clearly wasn't. And then and then the worst thing about this, people don't tell you, I'll tell you this. Like this. With that, the what, the what exactly the worst thing about this is whether or not they're jealous or not, or they care about the work or the people, or if I was doing something wrong or thought too fast, they could have reached out and said, hey boy, I know you look up to us, blah blah.

:: 22:17:06

Unknown

I know one of them sent me like this big long message. And then, you talk. I try to respond to say like, hey. And literally one of the things is, I can't, I'll stop doing breathwork until I'm qualified or can you give me advice? I'll do this game totally different. I'll go back to smaller events like I was, I was always like, I wasn't like, fighting back.

:: 22:36:17

Unknown

No. And then, but then I got blocked and there was no conversation. They contacted my school. My school reached out to me. Why are you doing these events for? Why might the principle of the school. I felt like this little boy again was fucking yelling. It, yelling at me. Who do you think you are? And can can I just say something on that?

:: 22:52:08

Unknown

So the funny thing is, is like in the messages, which I still have said, you know, they're not qualified. All this kind of stuff, you know, they've never done any, any shit. And he's like, what what what, trauma qualifications do you have a Michael? What trauma? What what what are we supposed to have or do them like?

:: 23:09:06

Unknown

What do you want me to do? I'll do the like. I was, like, floating to people. You're coming in like, boy, you stand the fuck up. Yeah. And be the fucking man that you are, like in the black. You out or those sort of people. You would be fucking punching these people out because that. And in this world I'm like floating because I'm like, okay, this world is not like that.

:: 23:25:23

Unknown

We don't do violence, we don't do anger. We do. We do love. We do love and communication. So I'm trying to do that, and I'm getting hammered by people I looked up to. I was getting smashed by the the school, the director of this company, school that you were told to go to by the two people and they all just gave you the contact details, who then posted on social media saying that you had no education and all that kind of stuff, but then yet went to your school and complained.

:: 23:54:16

Unknown

And I'm like, I don't know what I saw. I don't know what people wanted from me at this time. Like I was just like, you know, I've done things in my life and I haven't always got it right, and I've made mistakes. I'm a fucking human being. But I'm like. I'm like. I'm just shattered. Like so shattered at this point.

:: 24:10:14

Unknown

And then I'm like. Like what? Where do I fucking go from here? Right? Like, you know. And then, well, let's just talk about it for a second. So when you're getting slammed by your school. And so I was listening outside the door and Baru comes out and he was a shell of himself. Oh man. I was like, hey, he's getting slammed from all over the place.

:: 24:30:21

Unknown

Social media, people that he looked up and then and then all my friends let me just tell you at this point, all my friends that didn't understand breathwork had fucked me off as well. At this point, they're like, you're like this. Know, I've gone weird. Like, you're feeling extremely lonely. So I've lost all my friends. Yeah, I jumped the fence.

:: 24:48:05

Unknown

You excited? All these people? Yeah, all these people turned on me. My school. Then I reached out and paid $10,000 to me. Turn that back on me. And then you came out from that room. At this point, can I just say, at this point, I was actually flying my mentors around. So we had mentors in this group.

:: 25:04:23

Unknown

I was paying for their flights, flying them around to help me do the right thing. And can I just say I gained mentors from his school. From my school? Yeah, that I paid money for the guy $2,000. His mentor was there facilitating how am I in front of me? So so I'm I'm doing like you works for the school.

:: 25:22:20

Unknown

That's right. And, so I'm. And can I just say this on that. No one had a fucking backbone. I could not believe it. As your partner sitting there, the mentor didn't stand up and say, hey, no, like I was there. I was helping out everyone turn their back on every single person. And then the way that my team, my friends that I thought, all my friends that were friends with these other people as well, they started to share shit and slander me as well.

:: 25:46:10

Unknown

And then there was all these things going around that weren't true about me. I'm not going to get into them because they weren't true. And what message is that? Sharing messages from people in boxing, him saying, hey, he's a real bad guy, hangs out with black. He's, he he's violent, he's this and that. And I'm like, well, what does this have to do with me?

:: 26:03:07

Unknown

Film breathwork and stuff. So like, there was some and that was some other shit shit. There's like people telling me about them on drugs. You're not like that at all. You know, fire and I'm not. And I'm like, you know, it's like all this shit is happening. And I'm like, I feel like I let my family down myself down all my people down.

:: 26:20:02

Unknown

And there was a lot of people sticking up for us. I would say that, and I appreciate it, people. And now I'll tell you what, I tell you who I am now, if you when we go through shit and then people who have, you know, turn their back on us in those times, there's been a lot of people that see where we're at now and they're like, hey, how are you guys?

:: 26:37:14

Unknown

No. Yeah, we've had a lot of people no no no no no. And say, you can suck. And I'm like, fucking. I'm like, shut the fuck up. Bag of tea. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, you shake. And we don't deal with shape. And I'm like, you know what the people that are learning, the people that stood by me, my friends, I expect my friends to stand by me.

:: 26:56:24

Unknown

But people in the breathwork, whatever the fucking I had friends turn their back on me. Yeah, me and block me. And for me, I. I got thrown into a world that wasn't even my world to be in. I was supporting my partner and to have my name go through mud when I really was just a byproduct. Again, I took a lot of I made mistakes through that.

:: 27:17:22

Unknown

I've made mistakes. I've hurt people. I've done things I the real learning, well, learning. And I'm not perfect, but I am finally feel like I'm getting it right. And I'm like, you know, this is like crazy. Because like I said, I jumped this fence and then like, then I didn't know where I belonged. I couldn't go back there.

:: 27:37:04

Unknown

I didn't know where to go, but it helped me find out who I started being myself. So when I stood on stage, I was like, we're all going to do this. Fuck you. Yeah. Exercise. I put on AC, DC thunderstruck, turn and and and and and then and I was I want you to stand up tall and I this is to anyone who's ever hurt you, anyone who's disrespected you.

:: 27:56:04

Unknown

Anything that I went through right for you in your life, fuck you. And I've got like, 100 people. Yeah, this is a breathwork event saying fuck you. I'm powerful. Yeah. Fuck you. I'm brave. People are crying. People are fucking like, you know, fuck you. I'm amazing. Fuck you. I'm created an event of all the things that we needed when we were going through our stuff.

:: 28:17:10

Unknown

And that is why we are so good at doing what we do. Because every single thing that we have created, developed, bought into our life is come from a direct result of things. You know what happened and we've needed as, as I, I don't call myself a breath worker. No, I fucking hate it. Never has because of all that trauma.

:: 28:33:08

Unknown

And I don't want to be involved with anyone in that world. And that's why we went more into business. So we're more like, know we just went into us. Well, we went into we went to us and we use breathwork for business. We want to we want to help other people. Whether it's breathwork is trying to get up, whether it's hairdressers, whether it's mechanics, construction workers, investment realtors.

:: 28:50:20

Unknown

I just want to help other people win 100%. I want to see other people win. That's my fucking goal. Yes. So. And I love that about you. I just we use breathwork to propel. We use breathwork as a tool to level people up, and it should be in every fucking aspect. Like I said, like you said, when we have like an office and we have a bunch of our workers, we have our online virtual team that help in the back end.

:: 29:15:24

Unknown

We did breathwork with them the other morning. It's manifest. I wake, I said, I wake up for success. Yeah, let's bring in creativity. We do breathwork ourselves. We do a breathwork with how to get to sleep. It's a fucking tool. Yeah, okay. And I don't consider myself a breathwork. I don't like being called a breathwork coach or a healer or anything like that.

:: 29:32:07

Unknown

I'm just here to transmit energy and help the world become more successful, more happy. Yeah. Emotionally prime, free and living a life on their own terms. One thing I'd say that we don't do that no one does is we make people dance. The Wiggles, as you said before. And I want to explain that. So we we we've done events now around Australia, a few world tours, fucking a lot.

:: 29:51:18

Unknown

eah, like maybe twice a week.: 3000

:: 30:10:01

Unknown

Like it's amazing. But the structure is what I'm talking about, how different the structure is now. I do freedom of movement. It's really cool. I do it before the break through breathwork at the end of the day, and what I was finding was when we do freedom movement, we put up a song like DMX or yeah, you know, fucking let's Dance like Lady Gaga or something, something modern.

:: 30:30:13

Unknown

Right? And we get the horror movie, people are laughing people. And then the room energy changes when everyone goes to get food. After that, people are laughing, talking marvel. And I'm like, that needs to be done at the start. So we got the my stupidest, hottest, craziest fucking exercise song, which was The Wiggles. Back to your childhood. We bring it back to each other, everyone on their feet.

:: 30:49:22

Unknown

We're going to do an icebreaker. Yeah, I do this right. Who here in the room is nervous and anxious? Hovering. Not one person. Yeah. Everyone. Right? Even awesome. Maybe anxious. Every time we do an event, I'm nervous. Like your hands are in the air. All right, everyone on the icebreaker, the Wiggles, hot potato, hot potato, potato, the whole fucking.

:: 31:09:12

Unknown

You got to do the action. Then we go and I say to people, you're not moving. I bring you up on stage so you can move. Everyone's. Everyone's laughing. Everyone's like, this is ridiculous. It's silly. All right, take a few deep breaths. Get all that energy out. Now sit down. Her. You're still anxious? Not a fucking hand in the room.

:: 31:25:11

Unknown

It works. It's a great icebreaker. User. Use it for your business. Use it for speaking gigs. Anything. And it gives you that sense of, like, calmness and connecting with the greater good to. You'll feel it because we do it as well. We're laughing, we're cracking mashed banana, and then we're of like, you feel the whole tension in the room laughs, and then you feel ready to continue on that day.

:: 31:44:03

Unknown

And I, like I said to our business coaches, used ten breaths in between each hour of speaking online or in events or anything because it fucking works. Yeah. So we've got all these signature things that we do now, and we've moved into more of who we are because of those experiences. Yeah. And, and those experiences. And I'll just say this right now, what I regret what happened.

:: 32:01:05

Unknown

You know, I don't hate you. I can also say I've got my lawyer on speed dial because we let their lawyers handle any. If we've got some of the best lawyers. Yeah, we've got in our team of people now, and I don't for defamation or so if anyone ever says anything online or like, you know, through text message or anything like that, what is the real story?

:: 32:20:04

Unknown

We just get our lawyers to sort it out now. So that's been a lesson for us. We don't hit back. We don't try and kill them with us. I don't care. I try and threaten. At the end of the day, you guys look silly because you're the ones going out this I'm the bank. And, yeah, psychological projection.

:: 32:32:17

Unknown

They know that because they work in this goes this is the craziest thing. But I just do it on 100%. And you know what? And the crazy thing is, is that these people actually really traumatically hurt you. And that's the sad thing. And then I don't know if they know that. And that was a year, a year of he went downhill.

:: 32:50:06

Unknown

I mean, his mental health, his anxiety trust I trust this year I still have trust issues. You and the doctor in the hospital most of all times you had vertigo, dizziness, couldn't get out of bed. And this went on for over a year. And the saddest thing is, is that I had to watch my partner go downhill.

:: 33:09:08

Unknown

And that is the reason, though, why I got involved in the business. And I'm training my birth gear training, which is not saying that I want to. And that's what our business is, what it is, and there and so I have to thank those people because we would not be as successful as we are now if it hadn't have been for that, because I had to step up and I moved into this, and I had to go and learn things that I didn't know before, and I went, I became qualified, and then I took over the business structure.

:: 33:38:01

Unknown

I thank them and had how how much did our business and events and all of you put systems and I had all these followers, didn't know how to monetize them. I had all this stuff and, you know, all the smart stuff, you know, and this is why I want everyone to know shitty things happen to great people all the time.

:: 33:54:05

Unknown

Shitty things. Having a great people all the time and good things happen. Shitty people gets it. And what? Yeah, that's exactly right. And what you do with that is up to you. Karma will always come back. I've always said you're not going to get me speaking up about this. I don't need you to know our side of the story.

:: 34:09:18

Unknown

I didn't need that, you know. But I always knew that karma would have its thing. And I also knew that, you know, it's not even karma. It's just. It is karma. Everyone has karma and, you know, good and bad. Yeah. The universe will always have my back and, you know, and it was the best thing that ever happened for us because like I said, we are the more successful versions of ourselves now.

:: 34:27:24

Unknown

It helped our bank account. It helped us as human beings grow. It made me go and get business coaches. I did something like I spent last year alone over $60,000 on self-development courses and courses, therapy, breakthrough breathwork business coaches, marketing, books, books, all the so because of that, and I just want you guys to know that for us personally, if you see anything that you love that we do use it because more Reach Out will help you to if you have if you're if you're doing an event and you want help, this will help you do event right.

:: 35:03:19

Unknown

But we want you to use our stuff. And if you think that something resonates with you and that you can help people because the end of the day, my main mission in life, and I'll say over and over again, is to see the world emotionally pain free. And if I'm helping you do that, then my job here is done.

:: 35:19:14

Unknown

And I'm part of the solution of helping human beings. So please, please, please reach out to help. Like if you see our stuff or share your stuff, we fucking love networking, love collaborating and that is what we're about. There's no competition with us. We don't see anyone as competition. We want everyone just different. And there is also a table at the top for us all, and we want to be a part of that for you.

:: 35:42:03

Unknown

So and I just want to end on that. I have no hate or most for anyone. I still think all the people that have called us out do great things, and they're doing great things and, and they bring they they're very knowledgeable and they bring stuff to the table. You know, they display their emotion on that day out of love to have sat down and had an amicable, you know, conversation about all this.

:: 36:03:04

Unknown

It never happened. Was it needed does it have any needed? I don't know, probably not. But, you know, we are we, who we are and they are who they are. And anyone who decides to follow them will act like we don't give a fuck. We just want everyone to win. And. And we just want to see the world emotionally pain free.

:: 36:20:16

Unknown

And that's it. That's it. And we just want everyone to win. So yeah, 100%. What an episode, what an episode. But that was cool to talk about that finally. Yeah. Feels actually really good. I so I did my own healing through that and got a bit emotional there. But yeah, I just, I just and on what Kirstie said, I really loved what you added to the end and, you know, I hope a lot of people feel like, you know, when you're getting slandered by other dress hairdressers or other footy people or science going in your life, man, it happens.

:: 36:46:14

Unknown

And just take a deep breath and just continue on your journey and just for yourself. Don't give up. Don't give up. Because I would have been very easy for Boris, especially at that time. Yeah, I probably would have. Yeah, I would have folded him just and I wanted to I wanted to just do what everyone wanted me to.

:: 37:00:21

Unknown

You want me to do you want to do I want it to fold and be like, okay, this is what you have to do in this world. But, you know, and parts of me, I just I wanted to be accepted and loved, of course, but part of me went like, well, I just want to go back to the world.

:: 37:13:08

Unknown

I used to live in because, like, people accept you for just being who you are and being a piece of shit in a fucking. I was like a runner. There's no need to level up and stuff like that, you know? You just you just drink and you party and you fucking run amok. And then you're right. But there's there's issues in that.

:: 37:29:04

Unknown

Well, do let me tell you, it's not all fucking gravy. And that's that's the key thing, right? It doesn't matter which road you choose to go in, there's going to be issues that go in the path that's directed to you. And don't do what I did and try and follow other people's path. Be inspired by everyone and create your own path.

:: 37:45:07

Unknown

And I found that in a book I read. Yeah, don't try and follow the paths of other people that have got it right. Pay to your own and learn your own lessons. Take some education and skills. Yeah, and then create your own path. But yeah. And and don't give up because you know what you are. The more successful you get in life, the more, hate that can come your way and pull you down and you get love as well.

:: 38:04:11

Unknown

But you've got to be stronger than that. And that's why building your resilience, building your mindset. I talk about all the time and we work heavily in our program. We breathe success. 90% of what we do is working on our mindset to be, I would navigate these days because if you don't understand that, if you cannot control that, you can't get the fuck out of your head and out of your emotions.

:: 38:24:03

Unknown

Your business will fail, your marriage will fail, your relationship will fail. But if you can control that mindset, if you can regulate the nervous system, if you can sit in confidence and clarity, belief and understanding exactly what's going on with you and as you take back control, you can literally control anything in your life and you will be successful.

:: 38:41:21

Unknown

And you've got to have compassion to for people like, I just want to say this, we found out not long ago that now going through the people that slandered us and, and said some, some they went, they'll go through some hard shit. We found out. Yeah, some very hard shit and amazing. And I'm not going to go into that because that's their business.

:: 38:57:21

Unknown

But they went through something really, really hard around that time. And you know, and now I look back and I felt like sorry. And I was like, fuck. Like they it makes me emotional because I'm like, dad, they're going through their pain as well. Yeah. And we all are. And that's what I mean when someone says something or hurt you, like, if we can just be compassionate back and be like, well, what are they going through?

:: 39:19:12

Unknown

Yeah, it's always been people don't want to hurt people and people are just trying to get through their life. And they've probably they've been through their trauma and their stuff. So that's all I wanted to say. And but also stand your fucking ground. Yeah. You know what I mean. Don't let people treat you like shit and you can do the fuck you want to do, whatever the fuck you want.

:: 39:35:24

Unknown

So saying compassionate, but also fucking stand on your own. Stand on your own two feet and don't fold. Yeah, I folded, I did, I folded my cards and I, and I wanted to be accepted. Fuck that. Like but I'm also this stronger person now and if you. Yeah you had to know I'm like now I'm like I say comments and stuff and I'm like, fuck you on me.

:: 39:54:01

Unknown

Yeah. And go be your fucking self. Like you said the other day, that person sometimes goes, oh, do you have to swear so much? Yeah. Fucking do. Yeah, yeah. Fucking if you don't like having to fucking block party and that's, that's the thing like, you know, stand your fucking ground, know who you are, know who you are, what you stand for and what you stand for.

:: 40:10:20

Unknown

Because that is going to be who are they going to want to tear you down? We are totally different people that have been totally different life and and no one is here to dictate your fucking life, your income, but you, your success, your career choices, the people you choose to hang around with but fucking you. Get out of your own way.

:: 40:27:07

Unknown

Get the fuck out of your own way. Awesome. Love. Thanks for joining us on another podcast. This is probably one of the most ones we've spoken about for a long time. I'm really glad we got to all of that. So if you want to join us, come and join our We Breathe Success program where we will get you success and happy and fucking killing it at life, no matter what that looks like for you.

:: 40:50:07

Unknown

It's a one size fits all. So thank you again for another episode of Spill the Tea with Beau and Kirsty.. That's right. Next one. Bye. Love it. Let's go have a beautiful lake.